Scum Thread Dharkon's Minions

[Franconp]

I think that I will skip the next couple of events. Geno said that the punishment will be worse. Apho should avoid it too. Sorian should be safe.

We already have 2 ítems and gave one away. We also know 2 other ítems. The only one we don't know it's Neon's.

I have 2 steals so I wouldn't take the risk.

 

[Sorian]

Yeah, with my claim i figure I have to join the dangerous events.

It'll totally be fine.

 

[Dr. Worm]

It'll totally be fine.

bus time

 

[Sorian]

Nah, I have my skill AND my luck, I won't die

 

[Franconp]

But the NPCs hate you.

 

[Dr. Worm]

Nah, I have my skill AND my luck, I won't die

famous last words

 

[Dr. Worm]

Other possibility is kill Brazil?

 

[Sorian]

Brazil has the same issue as Stu, he's town read now with only the forces of light information, he gets put back on the list when more teams are revealed.

 

[Franconp]

Maybe? He Is after Sorian but I wouldn't go after him now. Town will have too much to go after before focusing on weak leads.

 

[Franconp]

Kalor already admited not being town so he will be lunched tomorrow. And if we kill an illuminati Loki will look bad.

 

[Yuta]

So commands for tonight are:

Dr. Worm kills Fandorin
Fran vig-shots Ketkat
Sorian ...

 

[Sorian]

Bah, Fando had a BP (more likely) or Apop got roleblocked (less likely)

 

[Sorian]

Well actually, maybe Apop did get blocked? It seems like he would have been blocked N1 as well.

 

[Sorian]

Wonder if someone actually died or if they needed to put in a general pause to catch up lol

 

[Franconp]

Ketkat wasn't illuminati. We are lucky that we didn't faked that Illuminati cop.

It's a shame that we couldn't get Fando.

 

[Franconp]

And Kalor killed himself. This day may be trouble as we don't have a clear lynch now.

 

[Sorian]

*laughs in eternal roleblock*

 

[Sorian]

Hmm, I'm worried las plagas indicates vanillas and vanillas also have stones. That feels like it shouldn't make sense but then AB's claim kind of doesn't make sense since Snake isn't super known for being an investigator and that could explain it better.

 

[Sorian]

Apop whhhhhhy

 

[Dr. Worm]

Prove to me you're hardcore TMBG fans by looking up the lyrics. Don't post them in the thread - I want to keep our little club exclusive.

 

[Sorian]

I’m not a TMBG fan, sorry

:D

 

[Dr. Worm]

I’m not a TMBG fan, sorry

:D

we can no longer be friends

 

[Franconp]

I think I never heard a song from them.

 

[Dr. Worm]

I think I never heard a song from them.

Start with their first album and listen in order

http://tmbw.net/wiki/They_Might_Be_Giants_(Album)

 

[Dr. Worm]

Is it possible the Ventriloquist who targeted Chugg is paired with some kind of role cop? Might make sense to jail me tonight

 

[Sorian]

@Franconp never specificed exactly how his jailing works. Are you just roleblocking and saving the person from kills or are they completely isolated meaning no PRs can target them?

 

[Franconp]

Completely isolated. My target will be unable to visit other players and he can't be targeted that night.

 

[Sorian]

Ok so the plan is possible.

So wait, am I supposed to be gathering that Apop was targeted by the thing that targeted Chuggs and that's why you've been weird?

 

[Sorian]

Maol is lying or Geno gave us a really dickish fake claim for Fran.

 

[Sorian]

Welp, wonder if Brazil will confirm or deny my theory.

 

[Dr. Worm]

I'm on lunch break, did I miss anything cool

 

[Franconp]

And we finally found the illuminaties. We were right and they were the Jedah minions.

We can go after Loki and Fando tomorrow.

 

[Sorian]

That's the illuminati right? Or is this pain in the ass flavor? Saddler is specifically "los illuminados" which is just the group of RE4, I don't think everyone on that team is from RE4 though?

 

[Sorian]

Also, am I the only one roleblocked again?

 

[Franconp]

I think so.

Apho didn't played the first event and I was late.

 

[Sorian]

They have a non-standard win condition too that may not have actually stopped a normal mafia team or town from winning

 

[Dr. Worm]

@Geno can I use Seraphic Wing yet

 

[Sorian]

I'm not exactly worried about something happening to Apop so I'm more in the camp of using Fran's steal instead and Apop can roleblock.....Muffin maybe? Sounds like his power upgrade could be problamatic

 

[Sorian]

@Geno can I use Seraphic Wing yet

I feel like I don't even know you anymore Apop lol

 

[Sorian]

Oh unless seraphic wing is just your vig kill, that sounded like an item name and I was confused

 

[Sorian]

And we finally found the illuminaties. We were right and they were the Jedah minions.

We can go after Loki and Fando tomorrow.

And sorry, about this, is that really enough to go on loki and Fando, it's a small thing but them using the spanish name in the role feels off and nothing in that role PM hints at recruiting, how would we even be able to bring up the posts that implicate them? I feel like no one would be looking for it yet.

 

[Dr. Worm]

so Stu is getting demolished tomorrow yeah

 

[Geno]

@Geno can I use Seraphic Wing yet

No

 

[Sorian]

so Stu is getting demolished tomorrow yeah

Eh, he'll for sure be up for debate. He's very clearly not teamed with Maol though, I think many of the bigger voices will do lip service but I'd be shocked if they end there.

 

[Dr. Worm]

No

laaaaaaaaaaaaaame

 

[Dr. Worm]

Eh, he'll for sure be up for debate. He's very clearly not teamed with Maol though, I think many of the bigger voices will do lip service but I'd be shocked if they end there.

well someone's probably a partner of Maol

 

[Sorian]

well someone's probably a partner of Maol

I mean, if they are the illuminati then the partners would be Fando and loki now. Without our extra knowledge though, Stu was too blatant, it's unlikely someone goes that deep to bat for a scummate.

 

[Sorian]

I'm not touching that chat until you PM me Geno lol

 

[Franconp]

I'm not exactly worried about something happening to Apop so I'm more in the camp of using Fran's steal instead and Apop can roleblock.....Muffin maybe? Sounds like his power upgrade could be problamatic

I agree that we should block Muffin. And about my steal who should we Target? Who has ítems? Tearable won the last one and Stuart the previous one (and he claimed untargeteable). Who else.

And sorry, about this, is that really enough to go on loki and Fando, it's a small thing but them using the spanish name in the role feels off and nothing in that role PM hints at recruiting, how would we even be able to bring up the posts that implicate them? I feel like no one would be looking for it yet.

I think that we can bring that up. I know that it's not the same word but they are really similar and the way it was used Is suspicious.

 

[Sorian]

I got put into the "Hacker 2" room, It's me and L_P

 

[Geno]

Post in it of you want

 

[Sorian]

I agree that we should block Muffin. And about my steal who should we Target? Who has ítems? Tearable won the last one and Stuart the previous one (and he claimed untargeteable). Who else.



I think that we can bring that up. I know that it's not the same word but they are really similar and the way it was used Is suspicious.

I need to look at who has items. As far as the illuminati thing, how would you have noticed it Fran, what were you doing where you re-read Fando and/or loki to have noticed that? If you don't have a reason to be doing it, it would be suspicious. You wouldn't usually see the flavor name of someone (because its not the name of their faction) and decide to go hunt the thread for that work.

 

[Franconp]

That means that there Is a third party creating the chats. Surely they can read them too.

Being it number 2, why didn't they used it before?

 

[Sorian]

Post in it of you want

I mean, I want to know that you officially let both of us know. I don't want L_P to know I'm just hanging out on OM lol

 

[Geno]

I've notified both

 

[Sorian]

Ah right, my silly theory from earlier makes a bit more sense now. I think AB has an infinity stone too. My thought was that he was vanilla like Ket since he started infected and that vanillas were the ones with the infinity stones and that his infinity stone is what actually did the stealing/checks. Now to expand, I think Saddler's Call roleblock (or any roleblock) doesn't work on infinity stones so people starting infected don't matter since they can't really be roleblocked.

 

[Franconp]

Items:

Event 1: Winner Apho, Chaos esmerald. He gave them to me, I gave them to Loki
Event 2: Winner Muffin, Dutch's Gun. Stolen by AB, gave it to Aeleus who used it N2.
Event 3: Winner Fran, X-Blade. Gave to Sorian
Event 4: Winner Fantomas, Microchip. Stolen by AB, gave it to Muffin.
Event 5: Winner Neon/Stan, Item unknown.
Event 6: Winner Sorian, Morning Star. Gave to Fran.
Event 7: Winner Stuart, Item unknown.
Event 8: Winner Tearable, Item unknown.

(I could have made some mistake)

So that would mean that I should steal from either Stan, Stuart or Tearable.

 

[Franconp]

Los Illuminados couldn't make kills. So that means that if we lunch the last of the FoL noone can make kills even nights?

Also their wincon it's getting 25 souls. The game only had 28 players. Either they can count the dead as getting their souls or then can infect the dead. I don't know.

 

[Sorian]

I think Tearable is the steal. If I were balancing this, I'd spread out our items and not have them all drop around the same time, your item was event 6 and the other two unknowns are event 5 and 7.

I also don't think the infection has anything to do with getting souls. I think they just have to survive to final 3. One of them likely has kills or can unlock kills so the game doesn't stalemate if too many killing roles die. We are still the opposite of the FoL so I think we just get even nights to once they are all dead because of power imbalance or some story non sense.

 

[Dr. Worm]

Checking the flip, the role PM confirms it's a faction and not a solo neutral. Saddler is called the leader and PM mentions fellow members with an OM chat

I could definitely push Stu on this even if he's innocent

 

[Sorian]

He's the leader of los illuminados not the leader of Jedah's Alliance. Los illuminados is the group from RE4, Jedah's Alliance is the name of the mafia faction we are dealing with. You have to divide the flavor and the mafia game.

 

[Franconp]

Should I steal or should I commute?

If I was targeted N2 could I be targeted again after the last shot failed?

 

[Sorian]

I would steal personally. I don't really think they were after you to begin with and there plenty of other targets now since they need to take care of green checks too. And even if they did target you, it's rare for a scum team to try the same person a second time in a row for fear of losing another kill.

 

[Dr. Worm]

so who am I rb'ing? Fando?

 

[Sorian]

so who am I rb'ing? Fando?

Fando wouldn't do anything, you'd just get refunded. I think Muffin is the best, he thinks he can copy loki now and I don't want him getting mod confirmed or a cop shot.

 

[Franconp]

Muffin. He can check and he got his item.

Also if he can't copy Loki that could help Sorian.

And if there Is no kill again he Is lying and Is the last FoL.

 

[Sorian]

Btw all L_P has said in chat is basically "oh, I've never been invited to one of these before" I led with I didn't really want to talk to him because I think he's scum and asked if he made the chat but that's all the discussion.

 

[Dr. Worm]

The only thing is this is my last shot unless I get my item, so we can't check for more Illuminati

CRYOKINESIS: Muffin

also I just got my Internet set up at my new place so I should be able to be marginally more active/capable of reading things now

 

[Sorian]

If I’m right, I think whatever item Tearable got should work on you.

 

[Dr. Worm]

If I’m right, I think whatever item Tearable got should work on you.

eh, Fran's still got another steal for the next night phase if he survives, and we'll also have a kill, so unless everyone else was as magnanimous as you I'm not too worried

 

[Sorian]

Also just noticed, we are down to 20 players assuming I can count right and we didn’t get my 13/7 vig shot, oh well.

 

[Franconp]

soul steal: TearablePuns

 

[Dr. Worm]

Geno: so what are we calling Dracula's steal
Gorlak: well, the command name should convey that it's a steal
Geno: uh huh
Gorlak: but it should also reflect the powers and abilities of the OG vampire
Geno: how about "Soul Steal"
Gorlak: perfect

 

[Geno]

Lol, I just looked up abilities Dracula uses in Castlevania

 

[Sorian]

"But there is a team who's objective is to steal 25 souls"

"Fuck it, we already decided"

 

[Dr. Worm]

big brain play: bus Fran by claiming my role let me see his command and I can tell he's Jedah's Minion

 

[Sorian]

big brain play: bus Fran by claiming my role let me see his command and I can tell he's Jedah's Minion

This is how we lose

 

[Franconp]

big brain play: bus Fran by claiming my role let me see his command and I can tell he's Jedah's Minion

*Insert RyanReynoldsbutwhy.gif*

 

[Geno]

Apoph your shot was refunded.
Fran you got jack.

 

[Franconp]

There Is a cracker Jack in SF. I think it's a really long shot.

 

[Sorian]

Not sure if joking Fran but pretty sure he means you got nothing lol

 

[Geno]

You didn't get anything Fran

 

[Sorian]

Interesting with Muffin, wonder if someone has been roleblocking Apop a ton or if Muffin is an issue too.

 

[Dr. Worm]

out of curiosity, does a Steal command take priority over a Kill command?

Interesting with Muffin, wonder if someone has been roleblocking Apop a ton or if Muffin is an issue too.

I think it's more likely there's a roleblocker who's been sitting on me, though I can't imagine why

I'd probably be done for if Fran hadn't used his vig shot, since I might've been roleblocked vs Fandorin

 

[Sorian]

out of curiosity, does a Steal command take priority over a Kill command?

I think it's more likely there's a roleblocker who's been sitting on me, though I can't imagine why

I'd probably be done for if Fran hadn't used his vig shot, since I might've been roleblocked vs Fandorin

I just can't figure out why they'd be sitting on you, there was still a kill N1 and we know you were roleblocked then. What do they think they are stopping?

And I believe Geno has already said that the steal happens after the kill somewhere in here.

 

[Dr. Worm]

I just can't figure out why they'd be sitting on you, there was still a kill N1 and we know you were roleblocked then. What do they think they are stopping?

yeah, that's what I wanna know. there's a lot of folks who just threw my down on their read lists as "null, idfk man" so maybe it's someone trying to sus me out like that

at least you'll be feasibly capable of doing kills going forward though, right

And I believe Geno has already said that the steal happens after the kill somewhere in here.

I will laugh incredibly hard if he flips at day start

 

[Sorian]

It sounds like events are over so yeah, I shouldn't be forced into more roleblocks. Other scum team is lost and confused if they killed Tearable but whatever

 

[Sorian]

@Franconp What's your plan for your item at this point? You never claimed it stolen right? If you were town, would you have been holding an item this long? If you are planning to claim it's your item, do you have an idea of a full claim too?

 

[Sorian]

General reminder since I feel like items will be talked about more today.

Apop won the x-blade from event 1 and it was stolen from him on on N2.
Fran won the morning star from event 3 and has claimed nothing about in thread since that time.
I won the chaos emerald from event 6 and immediately sent it to loki, never claimed in thread.

 

[Sorian]

*sigh* what an annoying roleblock.

Inb4 the order of operations is even more garbage and Muffin is allowed to act BEFORE roleblocks or some shit.

 

[Sorian]

Glad we never got baited to go for loki, Wee is a watcher and had to have been on her at some point.

 

[Sorian]

I think Muffin already said he was two shot and his item sounds like the unrestricted hit is only the extra one from the item, so he has one more shot but it can only work on robots.

 

[Sorian]

Just noting here btw that we can't kill Stu, he is likely an odd night commuter. I forget if I mentioned that yesterday with his bad cover pretending to be even night.

 

[Dr. Worm]

stu is jester but he's softing commuter so he doesn't get shot

 

[Sorian]

Worst jester in history, he's never getting lynched.

I really don't think you should press him, people will flip on you for going at it if I had to bet.

 

[Franconp]

@Franconp What's your plan for your item at this point? You never claimed it stolen right? If you were town, would you have been holding an item this long? If you are planning to claim it's your item, do you have an idea of a full claim too?

I was thinking of claiming 2-shot jailer. My item gives me 1 more shot and it allows me to jail myself. I used my role N2 on myself because I was afraid that I could be a target for scum. I can claim that I haven't other shots still. Or that I targeted Muffin yesterday but it failed.

 

[Sorian]

I was thinking of claiming 2-shot jailer. My item gives me 1 more shot and it allows me to jail myself. I used my role N2 on myself because I was afraid that I could be a target for scum. I can claim that I haven't other shots still. Or that I targeted Muffin yesterday but it failed.

That could work, not saying you need to claim now or anything, just to make sure you have something. You probably would have jailed Loki once at this point too when he said he was out of shots? But obviously not last night since Muffin targeted him. Honestly, don’t say jailing didn’t work on Muffin, I don’t want to hear Stu any more.

 

[Franconp]

I won't claim until I'm pressured to do it.

 

[Franconp]

I should use my jail tomorrow just in case.

 

[Dr. Worm]

I really don't think you should press him, people will flip on you for going at it if I had to bet.

Faddy: wow sheeping my very good and correct vote yet again? obv scum