Spectator Thread Chilling at Neutral Holy Ground
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This has gotten juicy and I love it.
A Wild Shark Appears
Our resident acupuncturist
Can I still get in on that mod kill bet?
Alexem
Yeah, I'm town
I'm finding myself thinking about this typo from Monday morning again:
On the flipside, though, I'm not sure what trying to look more expendable would have achieved, so I'm probably overthinking things.
My reaction to seeing it then was that it was a possible slip (which Ephidel pointed out as I was about to mention it here), but today's developments put it in an interesting light. Could easily be a genuine typo, but part of me still wonders if Jman was at one point considering some sort of false claim and forgot he'd already put himself out as master.jman1954goat said:
On the flipside, though, I'm not sure what trying to look more expendable would have achieved, so I'm probably overthinking things.
A Wild Shark Appears
Our resident acupuncturist
Verelios
Were-elios
I bust out laughing each time Salva posts a new card.
Fanto
Confirmed Town
Not gunna lie, I was definitely getting some secondhand gamerunner anxiety just from reading the thread earlier, so I know it was about 10x as bad for you two actually having to deal with it all. I think we all knew this was probably going to be a wild one to moderate, but I think you're both doing great so far! <3
lokiduck
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Thanks fanto ;w; I was actually the only one around when it happened (besides Monkey checking in periodically of course). Seriously it all started as soon as Vere left to go do stuff >>; (Not his fault, just a crazy weird coincidence I was left to handle it myself)
So if any of the players have problems with the moderation you can put it on my shoulders.
It's funny because in fate Command seals can be used to make servants kill themselves and technically that was why we included the redirect even tho it can't do that.
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malus
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I'm glad the mood calmed down now, for a time it got a bit uncomfortable to read.
It did give some good content to analyze though.
I agree with the position that Fran and Jman are just two incompatible Town players. What stood out to me is how Mao was initially just complaining about not having anything to work with, but then being quick to hop on the Jman train. I think he wanted to use the "no kill" D1 as an excuse to coast through the day without having to contribute much.
It did give some good content to analyze though.
I agree with the position that Fran and Jman are just two incompatible Town players. What stood out to me is how Mao was initially just complaining about not having anything to work with, but then being quick to hop on the Jman train. I think he wanted to use the "no kill" D1 as an excuse to coast through the day without having to contribute much.
Zeke feels like town to me, which I find myself saying very rarely.
Alexem
Yeah, I'm town
I can see Jman being town, although I think Fran's being genuine in his accusations. The problem is that I can see this dragging on and consuming discussion if left un-checked for much longer, so I can see the merit in flipping Jman so that even if he's town, scum can't keep using FUD around him as as cover. At this point, Fran's pretty much got a target painted on his back regardless of what happens.
I'm also inclined to go along with Zeke as town at this point. As usual when there are a few of them, it wouldn't surprise me if one of the new players has rolled scum - Ephidel seems pretty genuine to me so far. (Should it turn out she's scum trying to cover herself as being a helpful townie, then she's doing a good job.)
I'm also inclined to go along with Zeke as town at this point. As usual when there are a few of them, it wouldn't surprise me if one of the new players has rolled scum - Ephidel seems pretty genuine to me so far. (Should it turn out she's scum trying to cover herself as being a helpful townie, then she's doing a good job.)
Can't wait for Nat to get back and see all these notifications from jman tagging him over and over again.
lokiduck
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What makes it even more amusing is it was the same point being made every time and it's not even one that is correct considering I agree with Natiko that a vig shouldn't be able to be redirected to kill themselves
Getting a kill shot reflected back at them sure... but not a redirect. As for his comparison with self voting, that is an extremely different beast and is allowed mostly because a player directly chooses to vote themselves anyway.
Part of me wants Nat to ignore them and part of me wants him to go in on that.
Lone_Prodigy
Am I at 10 posts yet?
Mine would just be blank.
Verelios
Were-elios
If you haven't drawn 10 mafiera post cards from your deck, draw until your deck loses 10 cards. If you have drawn 10 cards, your opponent draws 10 cards and discards until they have 5.
That it was. I can only imagine the discussion Vere and loki are having.
turmoil7
Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
so, being a 18 players game scum must be 4 players, yes?
how many of them could be in pure scum pairs? Taking into account there is a risk of half of the scum team dying immediately, I doubt there are two pure scum pairs if scum is 4 strong
So my guess is:
Master Servant
Scum Scum
Town Scum
Scum Town
If it is 5, add another Town Scum pair
how many of them could be in pure scum pairs? Taking into account there is a risk of half of the scum team dying immediately, I doubt there are two pure scum pairs if scum is 4 strong
So my guess is:
Master Servant
Scum Scum
Town Scum
Scum Town
If it is 5, add another Town Scum pair
Alexem
Yeah, I'm town
That sounds like a good line of thinking. There's also the possibility of a neutral instead of a fifth scum - typically I'd say that would over-complicate a full pairs game, but since this game's bastard...
good times ahead lol
Verelios
Were-elios
I need to talk with Loki but the envelope for what constitutes mod-killable action is really being pushed after yesterday. I think most people are going to see it as a precedent.
I definitely don't envy you two in this game. From the semi-outside without knowing everything behind the scenes it seems like you are being really boxed in on this.
Lone_Prodigy
Am I at 10 posts yet?
Yeah it's a fine line of "did they figure it out on their own" or "were they given enough hints to arrive at that conclusion".
lokiduck
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I was asleep when this happened. So no.
lokiduck
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Correction, Vere and I are putting our foot down (a bit >>) We can't really do much about what has been done because it keeps happening at weird times when we aren't around butttttttt we can make sure it doesn't happen in the future and that previous near violators know not to try it again as well.
turmoil7
Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
just a reminder that the rules say mods can change their criteria retroactively
Not advocating for doing it here, it's just that it seems to be usually forgotten when sometimes it can come in handy.
Hmm.
Verelios
Were-elios
Thanks Hedin, I'm sure most game runners will agree that modkilling ends up feeling like a last, last, last resort, and we'd rather not do it if we could help it.
Yeah, it fucking sucks. It always sucks. But sometimes it's just the only option.
You said you are mentoring right? Is it a secret which noobie you are mentoring?
Fanto
Confirmed Town
I'm worried Loki will modkill me if I say! :P
But seriously, yes, I am mentoring, but I'm keeping my mentee a secret from spec chat on my own, at least until they die lol.
lokiduck
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Oh i wouldn't do that :p
However they did make one mean post about me :<
/s
We'll have to share it once it's revealed lol.
jman1954goat
Linked the Fire
jman1954goat
Linked the Fire
The Main thread is more dead than I am right now.
I think Launch is scum.
Hes probably part of the mafia team too.
sick burn brah
These votes on Sky are so bad. "Too pushy." DUDES. DUUUUUDES.
that's town behavior (usually)
I think scum are running this game.
I think they have been playing things pretty well so far. Interested in seeing how things go in this night phase, depending on this flip and the night they could be close by the end of D3.
Alexem
Yeah, I'm town
Never put somebody one away from majority if Zeke can still vote for them. That's just common sense.
A Wild Shark Appears
Our resident acupuncturist
Zeke’s hammer gif is giving me flashbacks
Breadcrumbs? In this community? I prefer the anvil method and even then half the people don't pick on it.
Yeah, I was tempted to go and be really unsubtle about it, but didn't want to cross all the way into soft-roleclaim territory. Especially since I only told my partner that I was a bodyguard. That would have been awkward.
lokiduck
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Sorry that happened to you Sky :< Lancelot is one of my faves and your role was super cool. One day a bodyguard in my game will die protecting someone instead of being killed in some other way. XD
Also I'm also sad because your chat with your partner was the biggest chat we post wise :<
Also I'm also sad because your chat with your partner was the biggest chat we post wise :<
Seriously? What is everyone else doing with their partner chat? You don't learn anything without engaging in some kind of chat.
Though I could say that about this game as a whole. Everyone is so weirdly reserved.
lokiduck
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Some of it is time zones, other cases is people not trusting each other XD It's like how Sorian and LP were the least amount of posts.
We lost the most and least amount of posts in the same day :I
Fanto
Confirmed Town
Ooo, now I can make a partner guess based on this lol.
Hmmmm, I'm gunna guess Ephi or Wee, looking at the votes.
Lone_Prodigy
Am I at 10 posts yet?
Yeah that was a pretty lacklustre day end and vote. Sorta like what you'd expect after a no kill Day 1.
The last few games have been like that, people have been playing things close to their chest.
jman1954goat
Linked the Fire
Actually it's only The redirect that makes me not trust my partner not the fact that the game is bastard.
I did not know redirects where universal to all masters and assumed only I had it and figured you guys gave me a redirect because my partner is potentially scum
lokiduck
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LOL the redirect was also included so that if a servant had submitted their action, but the master wanted to change the target and the servant wouldn't be back the master could. It's like when scum does an action for another player in their name because they can't be around.
But yes it also to help sow distrust
But yes it also to help sow distrust
jman1954goat
Linked the Fire
I kept saying to myself If Fran was a healer why would I need to redirect his shot Heals are harmlessLOL the redirect was also included so that if a servant had submitted their action, but the master wanted to change the target and the servant wouldn't be back the master could. It's like when scum does an action for another player in their name because they can't be around.
But yes it also to help sow distrust
If Fran is a Doctor why is his class Assassins
I played myself pretty hard.
It's possible we can be living in a world were Fran is a serial killer who can't self target and I simply refunded him LOL that would be a crazy twist
lokiduck
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LOL true.
I also just want to point out that doctors have qualified for the assassin class in the past. :D
Some examples:
Charles Henri Sanson- Inventor of the guillotine was a doctor.
Dr. Henry Jekyl- His other half Mr. Hyde is a berserker.
The version of Jack the ripper based on it being a doctor.
(There are several jack the rippers actually. All are Assassin from what I understand, but each one is based on a different theory about Jack. Long story short, most servants are based more on what the world knows about people than what was factual so different versions can even exist.)
Alexem
Yeah, I'm town
"Fun" fact - the man thought to be the most prolific serial killer in British legal history was a friendly-looking family doctor who was bumping off his elderly patients with overdoses of painkillers and putting it down to old age.
(Having said that, I don't really think that Harold Shipman would be very tasteful flavour for a mafia game, unless you're going all out to design 'Sick Bastards Mafia' - and even then I'd have reservations...)
(Having said that, I don't really think that Harold Shipman would be very tasteful flavour for a mafia game, unless you're going all out to design 'Sick Bastards Mafia' - and even then I'd have reservations...)
lokiduck
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At least we know for sure he'd qualify as an assassin servant... tho he's probably not well known enough to become one. XD
Hell even the Headless Horseman had to fuse with another urban figure to become a servant (two actually but one of them basically doesn't counts)
weemadarthur
Mad as in angry, or mad as in crazy?
Does that make Fran scum? Or is it just N2 striking again?
Lone_Prodigy
Am I at 10 posts yet?
Not looking good for town.
weemadarthur
Mad as in angry, or mad as in crazy?
how’d you know about me?
i left enough data to piece together my results. And yet it would take the combined efforts of the thread, a role claim, my noobmastter sharing stuff, and understanding my speech patterns/crumb leavings.
it’s a shame sorian is dead, lol.
i left enough data to piece together my results. And yet it would take the combined efforts of the thread, a role claim, my noobmastter sharing stuff, and understanding my speech patterns/crumb leavings.
it’s a shame sorian is dead, lol.
lokiduck
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Did you read his role PM XD
I didn't suspect it was you, but I knew that there was a tracker in the game after Night 1. I left a breadcrumb in the thread as to my results. I probably should have suspected that you were the tracker though, all things considered.
weemadarthur
Mad as in angry, or mad as in crazy?
I didn’t even read my own very well. So.many.red.words.
lokiduck
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weemadarthur
Mad as in angry, or mad as in crazy?
What did you do N1?
lokiduck
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LOL again... Read his role PM. XD
weemadarthur
Mad as in angry, or mad as in crazy?
I’m sure i’ll get to it when i’m done filing taxes etc.
OK, so. I went back and did.
uh.
you’re saying I targeted sky’s master?
but...the result suggested my target was commuting. How could a master do that?
weemadarthur
Mad as in angry, or mad as in crazy?
My N2 result: I was not murdered by zeke, but if i had picked the right person to track, that would have exceedingly amused our moderators.
weemadarthur
Mad as in angry, or mad as in crazy?
I didn’t even talk that much this game!
lokiduck
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That was my bad. The messages was supposed to say Your target targeted no one. I wrote "Your targeted no one."
lokiduck
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Your wouldn't have seen it coming anyways :p
weemadarthur
Mad as in angry, or mad as in crazy?
That would have screwed over zipped’s role claim, good thing i’m ded. Mind you, I found it very surprising you chose to tell me i hit a commuter.....
weemadarthur
Mad as in angry, or mad as in crazy?
Not certainly. I still didn’t know if i was redirectd and my marster was scum.