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heymonkey

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I was thinking of making myself immune to status effects, since I'm dead (so bombs, poisons) -thoughts?
 

Kopite

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Kopite, if anyone happened to track you, claim doctor or something lol
Gotcha. I guess people (maybe rightfully) didn’t fully believe Chuggs claim that Mao‘s a cop lol. I can claim Ration doc, or maybe even Paramedic for some extra chaos lol since that’s probably what the actual docs flavour is
 

Ephidel

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This paramedic?

Looking at her affiliations I'm not sure that's a great plan :\
 

Kopite

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This paramedic?

Looking at her affiliations I'm not sure that's a great plan :\
Haha yeah, they made all the protagonists in MGS3 be the villains in the next game for some reason but rations doc is better yeah though we prolly dont need it.

that's why he visited jman n1
Welp
 

heymonkey

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heyyyyyy I live, no message about a 15-minute window to change my PM. and no bomb or foxdie message for me. none for y'all? (we don't KNOW they get a message; jman probably didn't but who knows)
 

heymonkey

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zeke scum af lol
"I'm more worried about the other scum team than Chugg's partners. More worried that the real scum team will use hunting for chugg's teammates as a way of actually scum hunting. *looks at fanto*"
 

heymonkey

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The reads of you are going really well, Faddy. Ephi's still townread; wavering for a few but will come back up when she's here. Just gotta get Kopite to shine and we're golden, y'all! eeeeeeee
 

Kopite

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Maybe Hawthorn is the Foxdie curer?

BtwMonkey you posted this in the thread:
"But we also have no reason to believe Chuggs, who had no mechanical reason to roleblock a defuser n1 and therefore likely didn't watch him."

Why did Chuggs RB Jman anyway, think he's misdirecting?
 

heymonkey

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He may not have and ATP may not be doc if so. But it’s possible he sat on jman just in case. On reflection now I just really don’t know. I think they saw something at least. Why else ATP out of everyone?
 

Kopite

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He may not have and ATP may not be doc if so. But it’s possible he sat on jman just in case. On reflection now I just really don’t know. I think they saw something at least. Why else ATP out of everyone?
Might be worth noting that ATP seemed to consistently put pressure on Jman for quite a bit on D2 and even floated a theory that Jman and HP lied about the bombs. Very odd for someone they just 'protected'.
 

Faddy

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Maybe Hawthorn is the Foxdie curer?

BtwMonkey you posted this in the thread:
"But we also have no reason to believe Chuggs, who had no mechanical reason to roleblock a defuser n1 and therefore likely didn't watch him."

Why did Chuggs RB Jman anyway, think he's misdirecting?

Maybe ATP didn't visit Jman and chuggs was just throwing suspicion for when Jman died.

BTW do we actually think Jman died at the end of the phase because he didn't post for a long time before the turbo. in fact he completely claimed how his role worked then never posted again. Perhaps he was busy but maybe chuggs team had like a vig shot and took him out. And we only got the flip after the day ended.
 

heymonkey

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Maybe ATP didn't visit Jman and chuggs was just throwing suspicion for when Jman died.

BTW do we actually think Jman died at the end of the phase because he didn't post for a long time before the turbo. in fact he completely claimed how his role worked then never posted again. Perhaps he was busy but maybe chuggs team had like a vig shot and took him out. And we only got the flip after the day ended.
We really have no way of knowing. I’m curious to see if Leo does at day end.
 

heymonkey

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I gotta say it is amazing how this tailoring thing just leaves me free to open wolf with nary a care and body block for everyone. Can I scum like this always? Thx
 

Faddy

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I gotta say it is amazing how this tailoring thing just leaves me free to open wolf with nary a care and body block for everyone. Can I scum like this always? Thx

What did you make of LP talking about tailored flips?

Like that was something...
 

heymonkey

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I haven't seen it yet. I'm in bed but starting to feel a little better (that shot hit like BRICKS). I'm gonna stay here a bit longer and then see how I feel when I'm upright.
 

Kopite

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I haven't seen it yet. I'm in bed but starting to feel a little better (that shot hit like BRICKS). I'm gonna stay here a bit longer and then see how I feel when I'm upright.
Hope you feel better soon! No clue when me or more importantly my parents are going to receive it here in Malaysia
 

heymonkey

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Fanto also mentioned tailors. I see them now. I don't know if it means anything.
Hope you feel better soon! No clue when me or more importantly my parents are going to receive it here in Malaysia
I do, thank you! fingers crossed for y'all. I hope you get some good updates. Not knowing is awful. So many friends in that boat, just waiting for information.
 

Ephidel

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I am Fulton Recovery Pack, the targeted commuter. I choose a player each night to make them commute on that same night. When my target commutes, they can't take any actions and actions can't be used on them. I can't target the same player twice in a row.

I targeted Jman N1. It's possible I was blocked, which would make sense if mafia thought that Launch's role comment meant he had a good role. If that's the case, it means that either Chuggs was lying about seeing ATP (since he would have had to watch me to block me) or that I was blocked by the other mafia team.

If I wasn't blocked, it means that whatever killed Jman was a day action and that Chuggs was lying about seeing ATP visit Jman. He could not have visited Jman if Jman was commuting-- I looked up the standard rules for commuters, which seem pretty clear on this point. Nat told me he was handling commuters in a standard way.
Did we know if our targets knew their targets were changing before?
Now we know they don't.
(And now we know what we threw at Neki).
 

Faddy

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Hawthorn probably made Monkey commute last night and that is why our kill failed.
 

heymonkey

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Nah, she's a jailer basically and I think she jailed Zeke, her scumread. I asked Nat if I lost my shot or not.
 

heymonkey

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Nope, you're right, I got my shot back so I was blocked/protected. lolololololol amazing backfire of my perceived towniness.
 

Ephidel

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Doctor, if you have a good town role, I'm sorry I roleblocked you, but I thought it was worth keeping you alive and posting for another day. There was no kills, so I think odds are likely I was successful. If you're mafia and tried to perform the kill, then apology retracted. But I think you're town.
No apology for you
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heymonkey

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yes, I think so, but I don't know if I should swing there or not. I think I could pull it off.
 

Faddy

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I feel like she's been put under so much pressure she'll just target herself

We could have stopped that.

I think it would have been better if kalor flipped because the we could have strong killed Hawthorn.

Now if shuggs team targeted monkey with a bomb last night they are going to think something is up when she doesn't die.
 

heymonkey

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We could have stopped that.

I think it would have been better if kalor flipped because the we could have strong killed Hawthorn.

Now if shuggs team targeted monkey with a bomb last night they are going to think something is up when she doesn't die.
They couldn't target me if thorny was telling the truth, though
 

heymonkey

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okay. Leo and HP still alive, so we know there's focus on them tomorrow. good, good.

i'm gonna go not be at the computer
 

Faddy

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I think we should go after maol tbh.

It plays better to me that Hawthorn saved maol and then we went back to kill him. I suppose it works with ATP as well although Hawthorn would be less likely to protect there imo.
 

Kopite

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I think Mao is likely to check Monkey too, he alluded to it D1/D2 and while he's been buddy-buddy with her since I'm sure he knows she could be part of the second scum team
 

Ephidel

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Wtf even happened with the votes today.

I don't think I've ever seen a day swing back and forth so much. And I really wasn't expecting to see that Kalor train make a comeback even if I was still sitting there on it.

It plays better to me that Hawthorn saved maol and then we went back to kill him. I suppose it works with ATP as well although Hawthorn would be less likely to protect there imo.

I think it will be pretty much accepted that Hawthorn was telling the truth and went for Jman and Monkey, honestly.
The rest of them don't know we redirected her, they'll just assume one of today's million damn roleblockers hit her or Chuggs was lying.

I think Mao is likely to check Monkey too, he alluded to it D1/D2 and while he's been buddy-buddy with her since I'm sure he knows she could be part of the second scum team

Do you think Mao really is a cop then?
Because at the moment my feeling is that while it's probably risky to leave him, his sussing strategy involves tripping people into doing incriminating shit for no reason. The more pointlessly incriminating shit people do the easier it should be find things to grip on to for dear life and push at them, and we have a lot of players to work our way through on the crawl towards majority.

If you do think he's a cop, and if you think he's going to check Monkey, do you think he'd do it tonight?
Would it be worth trying to control/direct him? We now know from Hawthorn he won't know his target has been changed. If he's a cop and if he checks Monkey but actually checks... fuck it, let's say Neki again... he'll get a green check, right?
 

Ephidel

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Did Hawthorn say monkey was their target last night? I missed that.
Yeah, #3691
It was in the first half of the quote I snipped above actually, lol.
I can't believe I have nine votes on me still. That could be enough for one of the two scum teams to turbo. I'll just go ahead and say it: I targeted Dr. Monkey.

Doctor, if you have a good town role, I'm sorry I roleblocked you, but I thought it was worth keeping you alive and posting for another day. There was no kills, so I think odds are likely I was successful. If you're mafia and tried to perform the kill, then apology retracted. But I think you're town.
 

heymonkey

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I’m for killing Maol. Or re-shooting Zeke. Since he didn’t soak the kill he really could be vanilla.
Kopite can copy again. Maybe Fanto? We know she had two powers.
 

Ephidel

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But if you shoot Zeke then what's poor Faddy meant to do tomorrow? ;)

If you both want to kill Mao, I'll back off and accept it.


Would you really want to copy Fanto over someone new though?



For the people I'd probably not be interested in:
Fate is probably Sunny and has a day skill he doesn't seem enthused by.
Neki said "Is everyone supposed to get cool roles in role madness games? This just makes me sad now."
Kalor said "I'm not claiming. It won't convince anyone and it's a waste if I do survive."
Nin's "if anyone feels scared i would be happy to be the one who hammers" made me wonder if he has reason to believe he'd be safe from the blowback?
And obviously I'd never want him to do it, but just because I've been pondering it as a hypothetical, assuming Vere was being honest if Kopite copied him would he join the masonry and find out who Vere's partner is? Presumably he'd out himself in the process though. Again, wouldn't actually want to see it done, I was just curious from a mechanical standpoint.
 

Ephidel

How do you do, fellow mafia?
Wait, where'd the half of that message about the people I would go. One moment, I need to try and refind that.
 

Ephidel

How do you do, fellow mafia?
Okay, I have no idea where it went, tried to piece it back together.


Ahem.

Slot this in the middle between "Would you really want to copy Fanto over someone new though?" and "For the people I'd probably not be interested in:"

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Would you really want to copy Fanto over someone new though?

As role to be a little concerned about, ATP professed not wanting to be protected by Hawthorn and said he used a roleblock last night.

HP had that whole "This is all reliant on me not being voted out of course (or getting blown up) which I'll maintain wouldn't be good for town but of course if you want to test that then go ahead" moment which I have to think is more about his role than him? But I haven't managed to notice him hinting at anything specific.

Fanto we know has active actions which makes her interesting. Didn't have a visible effect on Vere, probably not anything giving her actual results considering how happy she is to jump between trains, but I guess can't write that off because we don't know who she thought she was targeting. (Okay, I can see why you might just want to clear up what she can do for the sake of ease).
 

Ephidel

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And this was meant to be at the end.

Leo/Stan/Sky/Zipped/LP are the remainders.

For a wild shot in the dark I'd be kinda interested in seeing what one of them might be holding.
It looks like you're planning on going after Leo if he lives.
Would it be worth knowing what he might come back with first so you can plan around it?

I'd probably be curious to see what someone like Sparks or Stan might be holding? Not like it's going to be particularly easy to drag it out of either of them any other way considering Sparks is Sparks and Stan isn't going to be around if/when things get crazy?


But I do wonder about that Mason Problem.

Would the masons be likely to have powers in addition to the masonry? In HvV3 the masons and notreallymasons did, but you did point out today that's not a standard game.
But either way, I was pondering if you can... copy masonry... because his partner is going to be one too and because I genuinely don't know.

He had a top town list earlier in game that was Monkey/Neki/LP/Fanto
The people who stayed off the vote on him today were Sparks/Stan/HP/Odin/Neki/LP
And it's not much, but when he picked names to suspect from Mao's list he didn't pick Mao/Stan/Leo/Fanto

I don't know how likely he'd be to put them on his list versus just create distance to hide them, but I guess I'd be a little bit wary of copying those with overlap (Neki/LP/MaybeStan?) and more willing to chuck a direct at them instead?
 

Kopite

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I think Zeke really is vanilla, but might be best to leave him alive since he'll not be a night threat to us and it gives town (and Faddy somewhere to work on). If we suspect ATP of having an RB, we can either direct them to Maol or better yet just kill Mao ourselves and redirect ATP to one of the unknowns. I'm also down for copying Fanto since we know nothing about her and we'll get 2 actions (although 1 seems harmless).

I think I probably need a fakeclaim by day phase as well, towns on the verge of a mass claim I think
 

heymonkey

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I agree we need to find a safe fake claim for you, Kopite. I’ll see if I can come up with some ideas.

I think if we kill Maol tonight, we can push the idea that the scum team is inexperienced or not close reading. That clears me and Faddy, Ephi should be clear from a claim, and then we just need to cover Kopite. But a missed kill that looks to be on me is someone who probably missed details. It may not come up but if it does, choosing obvious targets helps, and I will use the super shot tonight.
 

heymonkey

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But I am going to holler against a mass claim for at least two more phases. Game still too big.
 

heymonkey

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Would the masons be likely to have powers in addition to the masonry? In HvV3 the masons and notreallymasons did, but you did point out today that's not a standard game.
But either way, I was pondering if you can... copy masonry... because his partner is going to be one too and because I genuinely don't know.
I expect you could, but it would put Kopite in their chat and out him. It would break up their chat at least and if he never posted, they wouldn't know, and we'd find out the partner, but I suspect it's Sky. I was gonna try to go back through and see who else had Vere/Ambulance as town, though.

Speaking of, someone should ask why Sky was SO convinced that Hawthorn was scum.
 

heymonkey

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I think Ephi makes good points. ATP, Leo, and HP are people we might want to put in the control or copy pool. It would also be very good to investigate Stan since he's unlikely to be in contention and could actually be a Patriot.

A mason could still be a Patriot, too. fuck. PROBABLY not Maol or ATP, but everyone else could be a Patriot.

Here are the people who did not vote for Chuggs d2:
Fanto
Leo
Sky
Vere - mason
Stan
fate
nin
jman - defuser

Probably not patriots: Leo, HP

LP voted Chuggs ONE MINUTE before he started open wolfing. That's wild. I think he's town but that could have been planned.

Zeke really could be a Patriot. It is tempting to just murderize him again. I'm looking at him at EoD 2 and he's trying to tamp down speculation and he did suggest we hammer. Which is funny because he was all "who did I ever hammer in this game" yesterday.
 

heymonkey

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I think we should avoid the Big Boss fake after yesterday.

Possible:
Drebin: [role] but also appears as a monkey but is not a monkey (because he has a pet monkey)
possible role: Enabler - while alive, vigilantes have an extra shot?
Making you essentially vanilla now that Feign is dead unless there's another vig in the game, which I doubt at this point. Vig would have shot yesterday.

Since Drebin handles guns and supports the hunt for Liquid.

Could also be a hunter hunting Liquid Snake.

Thoughts?
 

heymonkey

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Who am i controlling btw?
I dunno, Ephi and I are making a pool, who are you thinking?

It's tempting to try Zeke. I don't know if he's telling the truth. But we may get more mileage out of someone we don't know about yet.
 

Faddy

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Fate was talking about a day power. Could be interesting to copy that
 

heymonkey

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NINJA STRONG SUPER HULK SECRET KILL: MAOLFUNCTION

Nat, will you accept this as my command? :D
 

heymonkey

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Yeah, Maol gets the super kill.

Kopite, would you rather copy a day action or a night action? If a night action, I suggest someone who we think could be a patriot.

OH WAIT
if we copy a mason it doesn't take them out of the chat but you MIGHT get access to it to read it. HMMMMMMMM what do you think, folks? probably an action is better, but then we would also see if they have any other powers.
 
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