ynnny
SPIDER
wowow
incredible outing as a first timer player. much respect. you really did put on a show, lol : D definitely will look forward to your future games as a mafia player, spottie ^ ___ ^
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incredible outing as a first timer player. much respect. you really did put on a show, lol : D definitely will look forward to your future games as a mafia player, spottie ^ ___ ^
Ynnny has nicknamed you. You are now one of us.
ynnny
SPIDER
Good to have you here Turmoil. Be interesting to have more people to talk to as the game chugs along toward it's chaotic end.
When you said I deserved a reward, it's when I felt the true rush only this game brings, haha.
Also, Ohyeah referring back to my list is some crazy shit. Most moved on from it because they realize it's pointless, but the fact someone is trying to bring it back has me legit surprised.
Also, Ohyeah referring back to my list is some crazy shit. Most moved on from it because they realize it's pointless, but the fact someone is trying to bring it back has me legit surprised.
:o turmoil joined the land of the dead?
Looks like I really need to catch back up. I got out of reading the game around the time I got invested in Cluedo.
Looks like I really need to catch back up. I got out of reading the game around the time I got invested in Cluedo.
ynnny
SPIDER
he's already recruited. its 7 town v 4 scums atm.
turmoil7
Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
You expected me to reach the late game? lol
:eek: what was the mechanish to be recruited if not the egg?
Stantastic
Our Badminton Stanpion
one of the scum teammembers could pick someone to try recruit every odd night, if they picked Griffith then hes in.
turmoil7
Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
ynnny
SPIDER
Delayed Kill (DOOM) was supposed to have an effect on the Even/Odd mechanic. Say you DOOM someone on N1 and claimed Town RB/Doc/whatever, and grab town brownie points since there is no kill in the ensuing Day Phase. BUT! Your actual kill goes through next phase so Maf isn't robbed of the numbers of their NKs per night.
It was supposed to be a strategic ability.
It was supposed to be a strategic ability.
rac
whatever
turmoil7
Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
Ohyeah's obsession with Brazil amazes me lol
If both are town and kill each other I swear ...
Slan better is in this game, I want to read that role PM lol (methinks she is the recruiter). So we have the framer, swiss knife Void, the recruiter, whatever sickening power Femto has now, and what power could the last scum had got?
Hmmm
If both are town and kill each other I swear ...
Slan better is in this game, I want to read that role PM lol (methinks she is the recruiter). So we have the framer, swiss knife Void, the recruiter, whatever sickening power Femto has now, and what power could the last scum had got?
Hmmm
Just when I was enjoying this game... there is so much I wanted to do today. Brazil is town, he softed even night passive ability a few phases ago... It adds up with mine.
I was legit sure to not be killed. Still enough doubt on me - people were just starting to let go off the "could be scum" talk and no one town read me.
That last fucked up vote on rac isn't alignment indicative. (I hate using the colours btw. .. with Highlight Tags that vote would be in time)
I expected Zipped or Apollo to die. That lynch against rac out of nowhere made me townread him hard.
Kalor is 110% scum.
The others I don't know. Kaz would be my next choice probably.
I was legit sure to not be killed. Still enough doubt on me - people were just starting to let go off the "could be scum" talk and no one town read me.
That last fucked up vote on rac isn't alignment indicative. (I hate using the colours btw. .. with Highlight Tags that vote would be in time)
I expected Zipped or Apollo to die. That lynch against rac out of nowhere made me townread him hard.
Kalor is 110% scum.
The others I don't know. Kaz would be my next choice probably.
ynnny
SPIDER
awwww
at least people appreciate your spreadsheet (see posts above)
also you are highest poster.... i think! well done on carrying the torch even when the going is slow and morale is dubious on D5! you are a great hero \o/
the game is close, i still think scum has performed incredibly well on the earlier phases but town seems to slowly but solidly come together now
at least people appreciate your spreadsheet (see posts above)
also you are highest poster.... i think! well done on carrying the torch even when the going is slow and morale is dubious on D5! you are a great hero \o/
the game is close, i still think scum has performed incredibly well on the earlier phases but town seems to slowly but solidly come together now
But I always do spreadsheet. That''s not townie :(
Yah, somebody had to put in work yesterday and I didn't want to be a part of a bad town. I'm bad at scum hunting and very indecisive as town. So all I could do was prompt everyone to post and give stances, so we can look back at sth the next day.
We got very lucky with the rac lynch imo - did Zipped know rac was scum? Him taking credit for it is suspicious.
Yah, somebody had to put in work yesterday and I didn't want to be a part of a bad town. I'm bad at scum hunting and very indecisive as town. So all I could do was prompt everyone to post and give stances, so we can look back at sth the next day.
We got very lucky with the rac lynch imo - did Zipped know rac was scum? Him taking credit for it is suspicious.
rac
whatever
i think this was a really good learning experience for me to be honest
i just hope i can apply that to future games
and i definitely need to learn how to post more
edit: there was definitely a lot of things that you can notice and not say anything about since you know who your team is already
i just hope i can apply that to future games
and i definitely need to learn how to post more
edit: there was definitely a lot of things that you can notice and not say anything about since you know who your team is already
rac
whatever
rac had me totally fooled and I too am making this note. I was all like WHAT THEY ARE KILLING RAC OMG NO- oh shit, he's scum? HE'S SCUM? MY RAC?
rac
whatever
and i would've gotten away with it too if it weren't for these meddling new players
I've read all of the spec chat.
The newcomers fit in really well and will do fine in the future, I liked playing with all of you :)
Timezone was meh for me, would've liked to stay around during D1 or D3. But what can you do.
The egg talk was pretty much noise and annoying.
My biggest problem set-up wise is advertising as "non-bastard" (I even rechecked with spider) and in the end we were not able to trust a cop check, that's why I had such a hard time with Geno even though his standpoint made sense to a certain degree... I was coming around with him, but this wasn't supposed to be bastard.
How else will you define bastard if not by "we could be lying about PR results".
The newcomers fit in really well and will do fine in the future, I liked playing with all of you :)
Timezone was meh for me, would've liked to stay around during D1 or D3. But what can you do.
The egg talk was pretty much noise and annoying.
My biggest problem set-up wise is advertising as "non-bastard" (I even rechecked with spider) and in the end we were not able to trust a cop check, that's why I had such a hard time with Geno even though his standpoint made sense to a certain degree... I was coming around with him, but this wasn't supposed to be bastard.
How else will you define bastard if not by "we could be lying about PR results".
@Terraforce - I only came at you because I sometimes like to antagonize a strong player early game, usually offers people to lean one way or the other and can be helpful in retrospec. Also people townreading you for being a vocal player always rubs me the wrong way - would you have done anything differently if you started as scum? I'd bet no.
That nonsense with Salva didn't bother me. You and Geno having a relation from somewhere else did however. It felt like you were trusting each other way too much.
That nonsense with Salva didn't bother me. You and Geno having a relation from somewhere else did however. It felt like you were trusting each other way too much.
@Geno - Targeting Terra wasn't the best choice, but that happens. The attitude was your bigger problem. Even after seeing you were wrong, you kept a certain arrogance instead of trying to help town figure stuff out. At the very end you tried, but it was too late ;o
Still looking forward to play with you in the future
Still looking forward to play with you in the future
Please. If you are in the game, you have absolutely no clue. We lynched the most vocal town player because of a false red check. The responsible player then went on to pull a gambit in order to save himself. How could you remotely trust someone like this? This decision was nowhere near as bad as you make it out to be here.
CS claim wasn't perfect, but still not totally unbelievable if you know nothing about the setup but your own role and a few flips.
Reading EoD 3 was glorious :D - Full tie, everyone voting and (probably) scum outing himself at the end. Very unique situation, especially with town vs scum.
Looks like being pro active gets you killed... I'll keep that in mind for the next time and don't get myself killed with a bp shot left :( Feels so bad.
Why was Griffith cut from CS flip?
Going from CS comment ohyeah is definitely town... I.. I wish he'd be a bit more helpful throughout the days especially the early phases :(
Why was Griffith cut from CS flip?
Going from CS comment ohyeah is definitely town... I.. I wish he'd be a bit more helpful throughout the days especially the early phases :(
@rac
Wasn't splinter a vengeful lynch person/hunter type? Why would you block him N2? He wasn't close to being lynched or anything especially after Terra's flip?
And you did good! While I dislike coasting for that exact reason, you were a null to me. And dead town townreading you was a plus for you. I had nothing for or against you and am still surprised you got lynched.
[sorry for the multi posts, but I don't want everyone to quote one long post again and again.]
Wasn't splinter a vengeful lynch person/hunter type? Why would you block him N2? He wasn't close to being lynched or anything especially after Terra's flip?
And you did good! While I dislike coasting for that exact reason, you were a null to me. And dead town townreading you was a plus for you. I had nothing for or against you and am still surprised you got lynched.
[sorry for the multi posts, but I don't want everyone to quote one long post again and again.]
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
I had no more information than you - I’ve never seen the design of this game and nothing had been spoiled for me at the point in which I figured CS was scum. His claim in a vacuum was fine, but when compared against the other roles out in the open made little sense. Then when you take into account Apollo’s reveal about his attempt to kill CS failing and try to consider what Geno would have gained as scum to go with a fake claim like that just to get one player lynched it just was surprising to me to see it so close, let alone ultimately Geno being lynched. Obviously scum had a role in that happening. I’ve had my share of bad reads and pushed mislynches without considering the game as a whole before though. Not like I was saying I’m immune to a tunnel or anything. It happens, heat of the moment and what not. I meant no offense.
rac
whatever
the investigate only gave his flavor name or w/e
so all i knew was he was rickert
rac
whatever
as far as coasting goes i was going into the game wanting to be a better townie until i got scum and decided to just be me, which turned out to be a bad thing this game i guess
and i was struggling with how to react to my teammates, i basically have no interactions with any of them
and i was struggling with how to react to my teammates, i basically have no interactions with any of them
ynnny
SPIDER
Framer isn't bastard. It was used in Archer, too, and that game was certainly not advertised as Bastard. It just hit the perfect player in this game. Even Terra suspected Framer ability immediately in-game, knowing the set up is not bastard. Someone who has played a few games would have been able to deduct this as Terra did, too bad he wasn't really listened to, I guess.
Bastard game would involve roles that affect flips. Not roles that affect inves e.g. Godfather, Framer, Miller, etc.
Griffith is not cut from CS or rac's role PMs. That's their whole role PMs. If town had nailed the scum recruiter, it will show Griffith there.
Bastard game would involve roles that affect flips. Not roles that affect inves e.g. Godfather, Framer, Miller, etc.
Griffith is not cut from CS or rac's role PMs. That's their whole role PMs. If town had nailed the scum recruiter, it will show Griffith there.
ynnny
SPIDER
i think you'd do wonderfully in this game, kikimon
it's quite a puzzle solving set up :> and some players seem to like more puzzle solving and some others, more the social/players reading scumhunting aspects. most mafia games are both, of course. but berserk was designed with a slant towards the figuring out the puzzle aspect :>
turmoil7
Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
I don't know about brazil's vote on kalor, it's not like if there is a better choice anyways.
Breaking the tie is an argument that can be used against anyone, in fact I was going to vote for cs before my last f5 showed Kalor's vote
Regarding the bp, I thought he lied as a attempt to protect himself from scum. OTOH, if true, it would make him more powerful than rac, but against it scum has more info so I just overlooked it.
Well, now Kalor has a lot of small stuff going against him, let's see how it goes.
Breaking the tie is an argument that can be used against anyone, in fact I was going to vote for cs before my last f5 showed Kalor's vote
Regarding the bp, I thought he lied as a attempt to protect himself from scum. OTOH, if true, it would make him more powerful than rac, but against it scum has more info so I just overlooked it.
Well, now Kalor has a lot of small stuff going against him, let's see how it goes.
I still don't think it was obvious. Geno may have had no reasonable motive as scum to off Terra, but they had history and you never know how important sth. like that could be. And it wouldn't be the first time for unreasonable moves in a game of mafia in our community...
Furthermore he shot himself in the foot with the gambit (yes, even though it did reveal scum), that just looked like outing another PR as in taking down as much as possible while being alive.
CS claim was how exactly bad? One can critisize the immediate need to claim at all. Taking 30 minutes to give "boatmaster" as description may be another hint.
Apart from that? Day action was possible and lead people to believe him even.
There were two sides with unreasonable moves and motives to claim. CS was in no need to claim as scum, why couldn't it be over nervous town?
Apollo came forward and pegged the egg into in a longshot theory to make several person scum.
And a false red check will most likely lead to the death of the claimed cop, no matter what else is happening.
Thanks for the snark ynnny.
The cop got a red check. Thus the check got lynched. Terra had meta to assess Geno better than everyone else. You can't expect the rest to still believe Geno. It's not on the players that your game design was setting exact these proceedings up.
Mhm, any chance we could write down what roles can be expected in a normal game in general?
Furthermore I was looking up for some advice on how to be a good townie while playing and I think, it would be cool if we gathered a few ideas/links/self-written paragraphs at a specific place.
To give an example: TL Forum Mafia General Guide
Of course while not everything is super helpful, they do have some very good points.
Furthermore I was looking up for some advice on how to be a good townie while playing and I think, it would be cool if we gathered a few ideas/links/self-written paragraphs at a specific place.
To give an example: TL Forum Mafia General Guide
Of course while not everything is super helpful, they do have some very good points.