Scum Thread Strangers out to find you

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Lone_Prodigy

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I thought of Della Duck, x shot commuter. Flavour is you take off in the Spear of Selene to the moon.

I have a ninja shot so I could do the kill. No use in blocking anyone tonight IMO. Wizard is a good choice.

I'm going to focus on Zipped voting me instead of Kyan. It means he didn't want to stack on Kyan.
 
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Lone_Prodigy said:
I thought of Della Duck, x shot commuter. Flavour is you take off in the Spear of Selene to the moon.

I have a ninja shot so I could do the kill. No use in blocking anyone tonight IMO. Wizard is a good choice.

I'm going to focus on Zipped voting me instead of Kyan. It means he didn't want to stack on Kyan.
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Sounds good. I think Zipped breadcrumbed Della but that should be easy to work around.
 
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Also we're a team of 4 in a 22 player game so there's likely at least one neutral out there. If the second kill is an SK hopefully they can hit some townies.
 
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Not sure if any of the fake claims would fit but another possibility is a flavour cop that looks for ducks. Since Zipped is Magica and a Duck that basically means dog sniffer.
 
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Lone_Prodigy said:
Also we're a team of 4 in a 22 player game so there's likely at least one neutral out there. If the second kill is an SK hopefully they can hit some townies.
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Yeah, since nobody claimed the second kill they hopefully have more shots they can throw at Town.
 
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Oh right I should post that in the game thread.

Glad we left Kyan alone but I'll have to spin a claim if I end up tracked because I'm out of ninja shots.
 
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I actually completely forgot about the second part of your role. You're also an impostor Junior Woodchuck and can claim Newton Gearloose. No clue what power that could be. Another Joat seems risky.
 
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If the one handing out Items is Gyro, you could maybe claim a limited version of that like some variant of x-shot inventor.
 
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My theory is that Zeke is looking for Junior Woodchucks for his neighborhood, so maybe you could somehow hint at that. Your role specifically mentions you can be invited to a chat, but I'm not sure if that info would also be present for Town. What's the wording there exactly?
 
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A master of disguise, you can always act undetected in the shadows. You are a Godfather, and any alignment checks or role checks targeting you will return "Town" or "Vanilla" as results.

You are also a 2-Shot Ninja. You can use the command NINJA KILL: <Player> to kill that player without being detected by any tracker or watcher action on that night. That counts as the faction kill on that night.

You are also an Impostor Junior Woodchuck, and you might be invited to a chat. In the chat, your alignment won't be revealed, and you can use the fake role "Newton Gearloose".
 
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So town has role cops and alignment cops. Better claim vanilla to be safe.

I guess the neighbour chat works as a shot that only hits compatible players. Seems like another way for me to get "confirmed" so to speak. Get green checked or invited.
 
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So the item giver is among Randomless and Jman/Hawthorn and it's someone that town read Sawneeks D1 and that is in turn town read by Sawneeks.
I wouldn't be surprised if Sawneeks watches VA or EC tonight. VA to catch Scum again trying to kill him and EC for his Scrooge hinting to catch a #1 dime thief.
 
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Lone_Prodigy said:
EC softed commuter so that's out as a claim.
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I guess if you use Vanilla Newton Gearloose I can go for Daisy and Love. I now regret putting doubt on nin's claim since I could have gone with a power that lets me understand Donald's messages.
 
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Is it worth it to use a roleblock tonight? Bojack presumably still has a track and Sneeks a watch.
I don't think another role cop shot is necessary, so I can buy another roleblock. We also have a likely source of income in EC, but I don't want to target him tonight in case somebody is watching.
 
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My proposal is to kill Rando, block Bojack and buy another roleblock.
Has Jman/Hawthorn claimed anything so far?
 
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Bojack has no restrictions on his role, right? Thinking about what's more likely: Bojack tracking you or Sneeks watching Bojack or Rando. May be better off blocking Sneeks since Bojack may track WSD who he thinks is the neutral.
 
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But, yeah maybe better to block her since the probability is greater that she watches one of our targets than bojack is to track one of us.
 
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Or maybe somebody switched Ty and EC? Or Ty is a passive redirect? Or somebody else redirected me to EC?
So many possibilities...
 
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Sneeks didn't act N1 so she may be even night, but so is Kyan.

Ty is also an SK candidate as he's been under the radar.

Did EC hint at being Scrooge? IIRC Scrooge is the world's richest duck and Flintheart is the second. Flintheart as an SK could make sense.
 
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Did EC hint at being Scrooge? IIRC Scrooge is the world's richest duck and Flintheart is the second. Flintheart as an SK could make sense.
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Yeah, he hinted at it pretty heavily.
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Oh, I can confirm HP's role is real myself.
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The only people mentioned by the news were Gladstone Gander and Scrooge McDuck.
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I couldn't be more obvious that I'm town unless I came right out and said my role and role flavor.
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This one is less obvious, but I think it also hints at that.

Though I guess it could also mean he is Darkwing Duck and he somehow found that artifact for Scrooge or something.
 
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I think EC's flavor might be that he goes on an treasure hunt on the nights he is commuting.
 
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With so many confirmable Townies it won't be long before I'm back in the PoE, so it would be good to get you into Zeke's neighborhood to get that extra confirmation.
 
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Oh I have 3 threads to keep track of...better make sure I post in the right one.

Zeke, Ephi/ATP, and me are in the woodchuck chat. Apparently anex used the word "junior" in one of his early posts? Have to read through that but most of it is Zeke taking notes. And I think my duck breadcrumbs gif was a breadcrumb even though I'm pretty sure I posted that before I replaced in.

No kill is unfortunate. Probably wait to see what happens before jumping in there.

Flavour text mentions Flintheart getting money. Since you spent money on the RB maybe you paid Flintheart? Neutral item vendor?

Town RB wouldn't be a bad claim either.
 
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I think Ty might be Flintheart and those treasures could just be the games method of replenishing money. So we could possibly get another quackillion dollars from Ty.
 
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Darn Bojack tracked you.

I don't know if jailer would make sense or JOAT with an RB.

Flavour: Della Duck puts someone in the Spear of Selene and sends them into space?
 
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The thing is that if you claim RB, then that leads to basically a Thunderdome between you and Sneeks or maybe Bojack.

Btw in the neighbour chat, Zeke has unlimited shots, is Huey, and invited ATP, WSD, and me. WSD is not a woodchuck.
 
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You can't claim vanilla since Zeke can confirm you're lying. He thinks he's a cop role so two other cops seems unbalanced. Could try to say Bojack is lying.
 
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Jailer is too risky because we don't know why our kill didn't go through. I guess Della the JOAT is probably the safest. You can say you tracked ZBeat N2 and then blocked Sneeks N3.

Or Carl Barks the duck sniffer lol
 
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Lone_Prodigy said:
Jailer is too risky because we don't know why our kill didn't go through. I guess Della the JOAT is probably the safest. You can say you tracked ZBeat N2 and then blocked Sneeks N3.

Or Carl Barks the duck sniffer lol
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Oops didn't read this before claiming. Oh well, we'll see how it goes.
Any idea for the role name?
How about Adventurous Pilot. Or should Jailkeeper be in the role name?
 
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After the game I'm going to need a very detailed breakdown of all the night actions.
 
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So we can't steal any money from Scrooge or Glomgold without being detected.
Darkwing might be like Batman and have money of his own, but I doubt we can target him again for 1 quackillion dollars.
I guess if we kill Scrooge on the same night we steal from him he couldn't tell on us.
 
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Looks like we got super lucky that Fate inherited that castle and then redirected our steal to himself.
 
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Night actions will be probably be killing Hawthorn/jman and blocking Kyan but you'd have to explain why you didn't protect Hawthorn.

Unless...block and kill Hawthorn? Would stop the item being sent out, Kyan could see you visit Hawthorn, and you can claim strongman. No one will claim to have received an item so that verifies the blocking part of your ability.

If Kyan tracks me doing the kill then GG but I'd probably be voted out sooner or later for my flavour.
 
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I was going to claim 1-shot tomorrow, so that shouldn't be a problem, but I can also go for 2-shot if Kyan tracks me.
I'm a little worried that Sawneeks might be pocketing another shot of her watcher ability.
 
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I honestly didn't expect Town to swallow my jailer claim but questioning a cop check and the neighborhood.
 
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The flavour trap is too real. I'm just sitting here waiting for someone to ISO me but nope, it's my claim that makes me sketchy.

I think it'll be okay if we stack since it's just 2 of us and we've basically been playing solo since D3.
 
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So with Kyan's track out of the way, do we go for block and kill Hawthorn?

I can also try to steal from Fate again, but I don't think he has another quackillion dollars since we already took the mansion off him.
 
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The stealing seems kind of weird since outside of Fate, you can only seem to target EC or Launch who would see you if they aren't commuting. So best case it works once, worst case you are tracked. Probably no point in stealing after tonight since it looks like all town PRs have used up their shots. Unless Fate gets lucky again.

I don't remember if the items can be chosen but there's a good chance Hawthorn has given out the good items already. Even so she still has a night action so we should stop that.

Kill: Hawthorn

Neighbour chat is discussing Bojack and Sneeks as scum because there might be a possible scum ploy involving the people confirming each others' actions. Unfortunately that also includes you being tracked by Bojack to Sneeks. Don't think I can avoid going for you but at least I'll try to get the others out first.

Big uphill climb here because there are a handful of players that won't ever be voted out. Plus VA has a protection item and EC is a commuter.
 
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Blackmail: Hawthorn

If we're lucky HP will announce if EC has commuted again. I doubt he can commute two nights in a row and my hope is that eliminating him also makes Launch exit.
 
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So looks like Fate got some more money so it may be worth a try to steal. But since Leo asked about moving to 24h day phases, I don't think town has any night actions left.
 
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According to VA, EC commuted last night, so we could also go for the steal + kill on him the next night.
 
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Going to see if Random dropped any breadcrumbs, but I would try stealing from Launch tonight as it might trigger a hidden partner.

If I'm about to die, I might make a fake goodbye post and accidentally post it in the vanilla chat. Something like "target Launch tonight, we're still in good shape so good luck!" Something for town to think about.
 
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Checked the first few Random posts, no breadcrumbs that I could see.

I can always go for HP today, but my neighbours seem to want Sneeks or you.
 
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I've used my shots anyway, so if it's going to be me, better make sure you're on my train.
 
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Wee/WSD
Fate
Zeke
Ephi
Ty
Sneeks
Bojack
VA
EC
Launch
HP

12 left including me.

Won't ever get voted: VA, Ty, probably Bojack
Could be a vote: Zeke, Ephi, Launch, HP, Fate, WSD, Sneeks, EC

If I want Launch on my side I need to kill EC but I have no idea if he's bluffing his commutes and I'm not sure if I can risk missing.

VA has a protection item which is hopefully not a vest but an active self heal because I'll never get him otherwise.

Bojack seems like the obvious choice since he's voted for me twice. Going to HP over malus could be sus but he's too town read for that.

Ty is also all but confirmed but he seems to be reading the game the same as me. So it may be worth keeping him around for a bit longer.

Sneeks and HP may be cleared because of the malus flip but who knows with this town.

Ephi might get heat for her Sneeks push but we account for 3 votes and we'd defend each other so that's not happening unless town is totally convinced we're all scum.
 
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This game seems to have gone on forever and I was a replacement!

I'm tempted to spite Launch and not kill EC since he voted for a meanie but this is the chaos option:

Kill: EC

It will be funny if I die soon-ish and town still thinks there's mafia left while they ignore Launch.
 
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Getting close to open wolf time.

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I noticed that quick HP vote, Launch. Seeing a path to victory?

If Launch commutes every odd night, then he should have $4Q right now from N1, 3, and 5. If I leave Fate alone and he doesn't gain money, Launch would hit $5Q on N7 and $6Q on N9, passing Fate with $5Q.

Is the game going to go that long?

Night 6 now, 8-1-1.
Day 7, 7-1-1.
Day 8, 5-1-1.
Day 9, 3-1-1. Town assumes it's 2-2-1 with Launch as kingmaker? Lol.
Day 10, 1-1-1 but Launch exits, making it 1-1.

If I shoot Fate tonight and Launch exits, it's 7-1 on Day 7.
Day 8, 5-1. If town assumes 2 scum and 4v2, do a no vote.
Day 9 becomes 4-1.
Day 10 is 2-1.

So either way I need 3 misvotes? FML.
 
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Fate is never getting voted out so might as well toss Launch a bone.

Kill: Fate

There you go Leo. One less person to PM at night.
 
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I should also be throwing the woodchucks under the bus since they're starting to doubt me. Hard to do it in the chat though.
 
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