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A question rose in my head, did you give scum fakeclaims Fanto? Because all of them are personas. Although I guess they can all claim EZA fan. I guess the problem is that anyone who claims a member of the eza that exists is automatically cleared.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
A question rose in my head, did you give scum fakeclaims Fanto? Because all of them are personas. Although I guess they can all claim EZA fan. I guess the problem is that anyone who claims a member of the eza that exists is automatically cleared.
No fake claims, neither flavor nor role claims.

The issue is, and I was talking to Loki about this in modchat last night, is that there just is really not a whole lot of flavor claims that would work. Amanda/Sophie/Elyse are the 3 that aren't directly in EZA, but they appear frequently enough that they might as well be. Anyone else I could include would either be significant others, roommates, or former GameTrailers people, and all of them would automatically be suspected more than an EZA member would be.

It was just a rough theme to work with for flavor claims if I wanted to make all the Allies be Town, which I did. The fallback, like you said, is that there are 8 Vanillas in the game, all with identical Role PMs, so they can just claim Vanilla if there's mass claim, even though that's not a super fun thing to do as Scum.
 
No fake claims, neither flavor nor role claims.

The issue is, and I was talking to Loki about this in modchat last night, is that there just is really not a whole lot of flavor claims that would work. Amanda/Sophie/Elyse are the 3 that aren't directly in EZA, but they appear frequently enough that they might as well be. Anyone else I could include would either be significant others, roommates, or former GameTrailers people, and all of them would automatically be suspected more than an EZA member would be.

It was just a rough theme to work with for flavor claims if I wanted to make all the Allies be Town, which I did. The fallback, like you said, is that there are 8 Vanillas in the game, all with identical Role PMs, so they can just claim Vanilla if there's mass claim, even though that's not a super fun thing to do as Scum.
It's something to think about for the sequel I guess, anyway who's getting killed?
 
As of the moment, not who Mafia thinks they are going to kill lol.

They are trying to kill Monkey, but Vincent used his Switcher item on Monkey and Sawneeks, so RIP Sneeks lol.
Smart, could've been a real good play if Vincent targeted scum with that.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Roleblocked I guess, what about ATP?
ATP got a red check on Vere. I totally forgot to send it to him until now lol, thanks for reminding me lol.

And no, for Rac, the Scum Team bought their Taxi Driver item, and made it so they got his results instead.
 
ATP got a red check on Vere. I totally forgot to send it to him until now lol, thanks for reminding me lol.

And no, for Rac, the Scum Team bought their Taxi Driver item, and made it so they got his results instead.
Oh haha, damn big rip for Vere, good check, probably safe to say gg now.
 

A Wild Shark Appears

Our resident acupuncturist
ATP got a red check on Vere. I totally forgot to send it to him until now lol, thanks for reminding me lol.

And no, for Rac, the Scum Team bought their Taxi Driver item, and made it so they got his results instead.
So did scum not kill ATP because they thought he’d be protected?
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
If the rotatio has the vigilate item today it's gonna be tough for scum.
It's the Smartphone in that tier today, which is the
Time Rewind from LiS Mafia lol, resets the vote count to 0 when used, can't be used less than 1 hour before EoD.
 
It's the Smartphone in that tier today, which is the
Time Rewind from LiS Mafia lol, resets the vote count to 0 when used, can't be used less than 1 hour before EoD.
That's the weakest item in that category but can't imagine the opness of innocent child lol.
 

Sawneeks

little green dog
Also you can have blarg substitute all vowels with ????.

? th?nk th?ts ?n ?w?s?m? ?d??
YOU CAUSED MY TORMENT AGAIN? I THOUGHT FANTO WAS HAVING A LAUGH
I honestly thought they might get suspicious when you told them it would only work on Turm, but there were just no questions asked at all lol. I still love how Sawneeks' immediate reaction was just "Ok, our top priority now should be giving money to Zipped" lmao I was just dying in modchat watching that all happen.
The thought of asking Zipped if he could target someone other than Turm crossed my mind but I thought he either set up this 'reveal' over the Night or was faking it and going to target someone else and see how Turm reacted. But I honestly don't regret it at all and would gladly help @Zippedpinhead win again. That open ask was bold and it played out beautifully.
 

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
@Sawneeks Seriously I felt like aside from going after Faddy most of my game was spent pointing at Reki and going “This seems weird. This is weird right?” And everyone just shrugging. I almost straight thanked you in the thread when you posted that big thing about Reki but decided that would look fake and didn’t lol
 

Sawneeks

little green dog
@Sawneeks Seriously I felt like aside from going after Faddy most of my game was spent pointing at Reki and going “This seems weird. This is weird right?” And everyone just shrugging. I almost straight thanked you in the thread when you posted that big thing about Reki but decided that would look fake and didn’t lol
<3

It's just hard to put into words what felt wrong about Reki's posts. Vere has something similar where they look fine on the surface but they say so much and yet nothing at the same time, it's odd. Picking it apart doesn't really get down to the meat of it either. :x
 

lokiduck

Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
:laughing:

One scum got the PM for the HYPE Chat but hadn't checked the thread and legit thought their chat partner had Wee's gossip power now.
 

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
Vere as per the spoiler, and I’m guessing the rest of the scum team is Reki and Hedin. Could be Blarg too I suppose.
 

weemadarthur

Mad as in angry, or mad as in crazy?
Wait, I die and everybody takes my very valuable role?

lol.

was this day planned or is it like....cause i’m dead. It’s the same name as my move command for chatting.
 

weemadarthur

Mad as in angry, or mad as in crazy?
Oh hey [redacted] turned out town after all from that spoiler. Looked sus with some of those very silly moves lol. It was just misplaced HYPE And excitement.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Wait, I die and everybody takes my very valuable role?

lol.

was this day planned or is it like....cause i’m dead. It’s the same name as my move command for chatting.
You would have still been able to select a target and get a second chat at night.
 

weemadarthur

Mad as in angry, or mad as in crazy?
2. Well, Maol, congrats! You went from "I want him lunched asap if Sparks flips Town!" to "Hey, this fine gentleman is most probably Town!"
You forgot the reverse double back move, also you didn’t consider that it was sparks being bused. Means, don’t give any cred for it.
I forgot that Dice are a thing. I might buy that explanation for the kill. The sole alternative idea in my head is that Blarg is trolling us. This kill is such a we will not play your game move.
Lol. But he still has a team to answer to tho!
 

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
I'm starting to think there's no arsonist. But I hope there is, because it'll make me feel more like I contributed! XD
 
If everyone kept track of everyone's money then it'd be very easy to catch scum, you really can't get money secretly, town could just force a player to move all their recorded cash to another, if they can't that means they bought item and thus are scum.
 

A Wild Shark Appears

Our resident acupuncturist
I sent something your way..
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Fanto

Confirmed Town
Fanto are you happy with the game so far?
I'm just kind of waiting for it to end now tbh. Like, Kyan actually rolled the Connect 4 mini-game, but he's just going to try to tank it so ATP can win $500 so there's no point in making them play that out forever so I just gave them RPS instead.

I feel bad for Scum because I feel like they got royally screwed by Town figuring out how to manipulate most of the mechanics to their advantage and I feel like that's on me for not foreseeing that or not stopping them earlier.

They will probably mass claim and figure out who the final Scum are today or tomorrow and then just turbo the win.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Like this:
We can "just" flood the thread with bets after tallying up the bets people have made so far. We bet the amount that every person should have and if the bet does not go through, something is wrong. This will reveal people with items and money-using power roles. It also relies on people cooperating with the rest, we can't get info if someone isn't around. I think it is a move we do when we mass claim, not earlier.
This is me not realizing that Town can just completely screw Scum over so easily with these mechanics. Bets turned into a way to funnel money around in the game because I decided to just allow those easy bets, that really are not game-related as per my own rules, but I caved and just allowed everyone to do it so I can't stop now.
 
Yeah it's unfortunate, I'm to blame as well, it totally went over my head that they could do this. At least the players were active and most seem to have enjoyed it.
 
That is unfortunate for the overall gameplay, BUT it did help me win significantly sooner. I guess the intended way was for me to team up with Turmoil7 after stealing for a few days and winning like one bet or so.

I think everyone is having fun though!
 

weemadarthur

Mad as in angry, or mad as in crazy?
Launch getting all nervous about possibly dying looks sus. Who cares, when you’re the last mislunch and then you win with your team? Unless you’re scum of course.

rac checked....pancakes? But. Why? When reki is right there? You check for a green and not a red, on purpose?
 
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Launch getting all nervous about possibly dying looks sus. Who cares, when you’re the last mislunch and then you win with your team? Unless you’re scum of course.

rac checked....pancakes? But. Why? When reki is right there? You check for a green and not a red, on purpose?
Yeah I don't get the choice either tbh.
 

Alexem

Yeah, I'm town
If there's ever a combination that screams 'Lunch me now!' in my books, it's a red-checked player claiming role cop. A role cop is a PR that pretty much exists for role fishing - even a town role cop would just be helping scum to aim their attacks when they share their information. Hell, I'd even go so far as to put 'town role cop' on the same page as 'town hooker'.
 

weemadarthur

Mad as in angry, or mad as in crazy?
Ah, clever monkey.
send a thing to the item user for tracking a switch, nice.

alex is right, all role cops are non town lol
 
If there's ever a combination that screams 'Lunch me now!' in my books, it's a red-checked player claiming role cop. A role cop is a PR that pretty much exists for role fishing - even a town role cop would just be helping scum to aim their attacks when they share their information. Hell, I'd even go so far as to put 'town role cop' on the same page as 'town hooker'.
Me last game lmao
 

weemadarthur

Mad as in angry, or mad as in crazy?
Did they forget to block at all, or did they select someone other than atp? Or not have a block and just wishful thinking, lol.

scum now wishing they went for monkey before wee. I’m way too lazy for this shit.
 
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SalvaPot

YEAH
Like this:

This is me not realizing that Town can just completely screw Scum over so easily with these mechanics. Bets turned into a way to funnel money around in the game because I decided to just allow those easy bets, that really are not game-related as per my own rules, but I caved and just allowed everyone to do it so I can't stop now.
LMAO you wanted to break the players with the most bastard game possible to put them against each other and somehow broke your game into a foolproof way to mod-confirm scum players by uniting and trusting each other.
 

weemadarthur

Mad as in angry, or mad as in crazy?
LMAO you wanted to break the players with the most bastard game possible to put them against each other and somehow broke your game into a foolproof way to mod-confirm scum players by uniting and trusting each other.
Technically speaking, town always has this advantage in mafia lol. If only people would use it for teamplay.
 

SalvaPot

YEAH
Technically speaking, town always has this advantage in mafia lol. If only people would use it for teamplay.
This community is pretty good at deepwolfing tho, we like to joke about how dumb we are all but our Mafia Wolrd reps have always done great in the big leagues.
 
Yup, that's a problem with pancakes, she might've found me last game but posting these gifs won't help anyone.
 

weemadarthur

Mad as in angry, or mad as in crazy?
Yeah she’s leaning into the green check, but since that was given by vere, she needs to have incontrovertible backup to come across as town after vere flips Mafia. And i don’t see where she has a backup plan on that. Maybe i’m wrong, but the game is still one of words and saying some.
 

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
Yeah, I'm not really sure what Pancakes is doing here. Just being an island makes it harder for town to trust you and if you die no one knows if you were actually onto anything or not.
 

weemadarthur

Mad as in angry, or mad as in crazy?
I enjoy watching Launch come up with ways to fool the game runner. How fooled are you, fanto? Ready to give cheat codes?
 
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