turmoil7
Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
I was under the impression you did, I think the second time you were on a chat was with Sorian's chat then?What makes you say that?
I was under the impression you did, I think the second time you were on a chat was with Sorian's chat then?What makes you say that?
Who do you think are Sorian's partners here?Vote: Sorian
That green check is so mafia it hurts.
I hate to ruin the joke but I know nin well enough to know that he’s going to say malus and WizardWho do you think are Sorian's partners here?
Tbh, nin feels like someone I would investigate before voting out. He’s so likely to be a waste of time mislynch because he’s going to look scummy regardless and I don’t even know we get any good info if he is town.
I hate to ruin the joke but I know nin well enough to know that he’s going to say malus and Wizard

town:
Zipped
melon
Ty
Chuggs
Ael
nin
TWE
Muffin
PoE:
Natiko
Fran
Alexem
Sorian
Geno
Sorian's weak green check would be easy to fake, they could have a gossip shot as part of a scum JOAT. Just saying for the late game.
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I'm having a hard time figuring out who could be scum among the remaining players.
I’m not going to spend my time defending my PR usage, I left all the tools to figure it out in case I died. There are way too many role clears all over this game and I wouldn’t go out of my way to add another one for funsies. Even before adding Fran to the pile before knowing about him today, almost everyone else has verifiably proved something about themselves and you (nin) would actually be one of the worst people to fake this with since without the check, you would still be in the poe.Vote: Sorian
That green check is so mafia it hurts.
Fully agree with this.This was Wiz last read list:
I believe that he adds at least one partner in the PoE. Geno was town, I'm town and Natiko is neutral. That only leaves Alexem and Sorian. I believe one of them is scum.
On the town list we know that TWE was town and Zipped is basically confirmed. Nin is town if Sorian is town. That would leave us with Melon, Ty, Chuggs, Ael and Muffin. From that list at least one is scum, maybe 2.
I'll add to the WIFOM of me and state that Sorian was pretty sure Zipped was a goner in our gossip chat (I disagreed and thought they'd target you)Does Sorian shots TWE last night after posting this:
I think that Sorian had the same idea that I had when TWE was talking about his role: that one of his abilities was a revive. That's why he received a list of who died before the day started.
Does it makes sense for Sorian to shot him the next night? I'm leaning no. They would at least wait a bit.
I'd agree with scum not having good claims and think they didn't even realise the JOAT/evolutionary split which led to Wizard's fake claim standing out and looking bad.This is 3 more scum right? From the hip without reading back (I'm not doing that until tomorrow morning) I'm going to shoot my shot on melon, Alex, and Muffin. I had a very stupid idea for a scum role that would explain Muffin's gossips and then Ael had an infinitely better idea (that I don't think they believe but I'm looking for scum here and Muffin is still a contender for me). But based on how shaky Wizard's claim was, I don't think scum had good claims to fall back on which is why I want to know what melon is trying to come up with here.
Rude.Yeah, choosing you would have definitely been more fun
WIFOM of this*I'll add to the WIFOM of me and state that Sorian was pretty sure Zipped was a goner in our gossip chat (I disagreed and thought they'd target you)
If we believe Alex is scum Wiz was busing him until the last minute of day 1, although he used his chance to switch to NeonI can’t read now but don’t want ties
Vote: Neon
When people say info flip I assume they mean the info gained from flipping the player as town (if the flip is scum that's just good for town and is not just "info")
What info do you think we get from a town Ty here?
Why do you bring up the timing of an investigate night action - would finding clarity on day three be bad here?
I'm not sure I follow, what stands out about Neon for you here?
The use of info flip on day one bothers me with Alex. Usually info flip is a few days in and there's some unresolved counterwagon it would be good to have the answer to.
I don't love this answer, it seems really wishy-washy and I don't come away with a clear sense of what you actually think of the players mentioned.
Expand on Alex (I'm leaning scummy) and Zipped (I have as null)
To me those reads feel pretty safe and consensus-y. (I haven't checked if he was early on any of them)
More hedgey reads from Alex here, I want a firmer stance from him.
I think Alexem's vote has the least conviction of what I've seen so far and his reads don't make me feel better. I think that's a solid pick for today.
Vote: Alexem
What makes you think the end of the train is town?
It’s interesting to Alexem fell out of contention cause I feel like that’s a wagon where the sentiment showed more interest than translated into votes. I could put some names and quotes here if I wasn’t lazy on mobile but you get the gist
I like Alex a bit more today too, that vote list looks more solid. The thing giving me pause is the wagon collapse, especially if Ty and AelSneeks are town, seemed like a good spot to park a vote.
Geno and Alexem on here, would flip Alex before Geno as I think it's weird that there was resistance to the vote there yesterday.
More hedgey reads from Alex here, I want a firmer stance from him.
I think Alexem's vote has the least conviction of what I've seen so far and his reads don't make me feel better. I think that's a solid pick for today.
Vote: Alexem
I would need to go back to check (and I won't as I'm about to go dog walking) but wouldn't the same be said about his vote on Sorian day 4? And geno hadn't voted yet.Why risk putting your partner 1 vote away?
I think I’m in a similar spot to Chuggs where I have an idea on the Ty situation but would rather hear it explained by Ty than cut it short
I mean I can say my sentiment it doesn’t feel like a slip, I just didn’t really feel like typing out maybe they meant it X way before seeing the reaction itself
I can say when I read it the second time I thought maybe he meant share as in collaborate on votes because the group on the lead vote each gain xp rather than it going to one person, similar to sharing xp among a rpg party regardless of who gets the last hit.
The misread explanation is simpler and as Febe points out more awkward. I feel like if it was a slip it could’ve been played off better than that.
I think the Ty moment is NAI but I want to see more from him outside of defense to get a better sense of where is at.
Yeah for me info means the town version of flip gets you somewhere. With a town!Ty, that would tell us that scum didn't see it as a true slip and knew the outcome if it looked likely to be the vote. So it's like marginal info.
For me it is more that I town lean on Ty and your post sets you up to turn a town flip from Ty into more scum reads in a way that scum will sometimes set up. When I looked at it felt more like filler scum will generate to mention a few names and keep their head above water for doing more than nothing but it didn't really hold up to scrutiny. This can be because you were sleepy or it can be inauthentic and you wanted to look good more than solve.
I like this post. I was a little worried I conflated not thinking Ty made a slip with Ty not being scum given how low-key he was by the end of yesterday but this is the kind of thing I like to see from Ty.
I like both Fran and Ty.
Why'd you say tonight here Ty?
Damn, I was mafia in Danny Phantom with TheWorthyEdge 9 years ago.....
Anyways, he might've changed since then, probably quite a lot, but I am really not seeing the scum player I played with back then here. He's so effortlessly being town here.
It's literally a joke to him that someone thinks he's scummy.
It's odd to me that Sorian seems frustrated here, like he wants more people to pull on the Ty thread but doesn't want to do it himself.
If the "good" play is to not tunnel hard on a perceived minor slip why praise Geno for coming in and doing just that?
Sorian and Neon are the most bad vibes for me right now.
Neon I could see maybe getting ahead of the the Ty flip in the way someone with scum team insight might.
Sorian I think I clash with as he has a very aggressive playstyle which puts me on edge but in this game it feels loud and hollow to me.
The prodding here is okay but I'm looking at Sorian on Chuggs and it feels forced to me like the vote comes first and the justification follows.
I also find it notable that the push on Chuggs is a defense of Neon, the low hanging fruit angle feels like a stretch to me.
Vote: Sorian
I have less Sorian experience but it seems like he does the headstrong grandstanding bit as both alignments
Sorian has mellowed as the game goes on and one of my fears (that his hard defense of Neon was a chainsaw) is alleviated.
I could go Sorian here, of the louder folk it seems like he is solving the least imo
I don’t have a ton of games with you but I remember one game where you were town and you were very opinionated on your scum reads even when they were wrong. I’m not trying to say you should have single handedly flipped scum here, more just I want to get the sense that you care about what you’re saying.
Sorry if it feels like an unfair meta read.
FWIW I did consider just giving it to Zipped but figured scum have some way to circumvent it (a strong kill seems likely with what we’ve seen so far)
I also wanted to be a bit greedy in the skipped kill acting as a soft green check vs Zipped who I think is already just green
I do think Geno rolling over as the sole viable wagon is weird and giving me some doubts. I think he may do that but not sure what his team would be going for.
Vote: Sorian
I think you, Nat and Sorian and cross reference with malus
This seems to be the strongest malus read Wizard had before the peek.[...]
Actually let me throw this to the class here.
(Late Neon votes by Captain, Wizard, malus, Blarg, Zipped)
Do you think scum is bold enough to pull this and if yes or are they more concerned with looking good at EoD, who do you think is the most likely scum out of these 5
Gut reaction malus has the worst there followed by captain
Worth noting that if geno flipped scum he was going to focus on melon so with geno being town he might have felt differently? Not sure.Melon, Ty, Muffin I'm willing to vote. I don't want to vote either Sorian or Geno. I'm getting bad vibes right now similar to the Neon vote.
That was his claim to me yesOk so Franconp killed scum at night, and Sorian has given a green check…
@Sorian you are saying your green check was a weak check? I.e. if you Had found scum you would have died?
That’s right yes, I was actually trying to die because it would have been easier which is why I ran into an unknown.Ok so Franconp killed scum at night, and Sorian has given a green check…
@Sorian you are saying your green check was a weak check? I.e. if you Had found scum you would have died?
I don't disagree that we have too many investigative powers claimed (its another reason I'm up for a Sorian v Alexem quasi thunderdome) but I would remind you that my 6xp power is arguably worse than HP and blarg's 2xp power.It just doesn’t make sense based on what I see from the game.
The way another (now flipped) player had my basic ability (my level 1) at a higher level it did not have a downgrade (either way, it was just plain the same ability between the two)
Since my alignment check is a level 2. It doesn’t strike me another would have that ability but worse.
My power isn’t an alignment check, I just used it that way so yes you are technically correct (yes this is me backtracking publicly but I told the right info to Aeleus privately). I hid with nin, not checked him but I’m trying not to allow people to wiggle around that green check so thank you for pushing that for no reason.@Sorian i dont believe you, why would your alignment check have a strict downgrade to mine (especially since mine is not my primary ability)
vote : Sorian
Do you die if you hid behind scum or not? How it is not a green check then (unless you talking about Nin maybe being a neutral)My power isn’t an alignment check, I just used it that way so yes you are technically correct (yes this is me backtracking publicly but I told the right info to Aeleus privately). I hid with nin, not checked him but I’m trying not to allow people to wiggle around that green check so thank you for pushing that for no reason.
I do die if I hide behind scum but there is a very functional difference between a weak alignment check and a hider that I’m honestly not going to point out because this is pointless, I think nin is town and I wanted to give as little wiggle room to that claim as possible.Do you die if you hid behind scum or not? How it is not a green check then (unless you talking about Nin maybe being a neutral)
Hiding was tier 1 and gossip was tier 2What tier was that ability? T1 or T2
Also now that I’m awake a bit more
VOTE: Alexem
I don’t like that Alex sheeped the melon vote with barely any reason and bringing the sole vote so far up to three was unnecessary since planned or not, I don’t think we are getting more out of whatever melon is doing
No one is ever killing me on night 1, I’m not going to humor voting out an obvious town wagon for like no optimizationHaving an investigation as T1 the optimal play would had been to switch to the main wagon on D1 to use it on N1.
Also the overlap of investigation abilities on early tiers is weird.
What tier was Fran's tracker skill? Did he claim it?
not to just sheep this too but I’m planning on ending up here today as well. Just think it’s safer than Melon and Muffin
What tier was Fran's tracker skill? Did he claim it?
Turm is trying to conspiracy that my role and your role are similar and also similar to the other investigation powers we’ve seen and that it’s too much at low tiers. It’s just a very round about way of allowing him to tunnel on me more.No, I didn't claim. Does it matter?
I would avoid shooting Chuggs, TheWorthyEdge and maybe Neon and Wizard. Others are for the most part null.
Just as I was wanting to vote Alexem.
There's the worry it's a playstyle thing, but I dislike the lack of commitment:
A lot of "It could be good, but it could also be bad".
Town lean
The Wizard - Good prodding
Begrudgingly I think Geno is probably town.
I need to get my poe finished. We've got:
So my poe would be something like:melonrabbit
nin1000
Sorian
Ty4on
Franconp
Chuggernaut
Alexem
turmoil7
Zippedpinhead
Muffin
The Wizard
TheWorthyEdge
Aeleus
Geno
Natiko
Which is way too bigmelonrabbit
Sorian
Franconp
The Wizard
Natiko
Maybe:
Alexem
turmoil7
Muffin
TheWorthyEdge
The Wizard
Has made some decent observations and reads.
Turm is trying to conspiracy that my role and your role are similar and also similar to the other investigation powers we’ve seen and that it’s too much at low tiers. It’s just a very round about way of allowing him to tunnel on me more.
He's lumping it all under the "investigation" umbrella so not literally the same, just so we are all clear.If you are a hider my role is nothing similar to that.
Happened to go look at the vote tool and your vote doesn't count because of the extra space between vote and : just fyi@Sorian i dont believe you, why would your alignment check have a strict downgrade to mine (especially since mine is not my primary ability)
vote : Sorian
Because my Wizard read is so bad. Early on I leaned town on him, but as the game went on I kinda forgot he was playing and put him in my poe because I had so few memories of him. My trustfall is so vague because I've mostly forgotten what made me townread him on D1.I'm not liking it. Some early town reads, then not much else and then he is part of his PoE. I can see partners here:
Vote: Ty
Ty, why it's not you?
It's malus' only read on Wizard that I found back then, but it really looks like a player who isn't focused on bussing.Still catching up but so far I really like this post:
Feels like genuine investigation.For me it is more that I town lean on Ty and your post sets you up to turn a town flip from Ty into more scum reads in a way that scum will sometimes set up. When I looked at it felt more like filler scum will generate to mention a few names and keep their head above water for doing more than nothing but it didn't really hold up to scrutiny. This can be because you were sleepy or it can be inauthentic and you wanted to look good more than solve.
Also this neutral speculation is a red flag for me, as scum are often eager to solve neutrals (the only part of the game they can solve alongside town)
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I don't love this answer, it seems really wishy-washy and I don't come away with a clear sense of what you actually think of the players mentioned.
On the other hand I don't like this post:
Insinuating role fishing from obvious joke posts, I don't know. Feels like trying to manufacture content....
(Where am I? Am I awake? Why does my head hurt?)
(How long have I been asleep?)
[NORMAL TALK]
Since it looks like night time talk is going to happen at... inconvenient times for me to catch up, I wanna let one thing be known now, roughly 23 hours in advance:
I'm unlikely to be able to move my vote around at day's end with full information. I'll keep my vote where I think it's best tonight, and catch up when I can in the morning, but it's gonna be rough due to the deluge of info.
[/NORMAL TALK]
...Whatever.
(Some people positing that scum sharing exp could make sense to balance things for them. I disagree with this notion. Assuming scum has a similar role PM to the information I have, I have to assume scum has 3 abilities each, with successively increasing xp costs. Pooling experience for them feels like it would be imbalanced. Maybe this is important? Maybe it's not. At THIS PHASE probably not.)
...I can't really be bothered.
(Some players yesterday were asking me questions about my "Squall-isms", in a way that felt somewhat role fishing. THAT SAID, neither of them arise as logical questions from the publicly available information we have (the sample PM). That PM has only xp abilities, and someone asked me if I had to type "...whatever" once per page for my role. Based on the publicly available information, and the information I have about my role, I don't see reason to believe that roles exist outside of the powers we have. Feels like a fishing question, and it's something that raised an eyebrow for me.)
Hardly feels worth it.
(Furthermore, the sample PM also does nothing to indicate anything about role names here. I was asked if my role was specifically Squall. That's a jump to make based on the lack of information about role names present publicly. Also rubs me a bit the wrong way.)
I am pretty sure Natiko’s ability is day since I gained access just after the night started. I assume day ability means he wouldn’t be seen targeting anyone at night unless he also had a night action.Hide seemed pointless so I waited until N2 and tracked Nat and he did not move which is why I assumed Sorian was the shopkeeper.
Nat visit with Ty has me ???
Yeah, I didn’t get any clarification from Hedin. All I know is that my command has to be in before day end. You’re welcome to ask Fran, Alex, or Ty - it’s very clear what my chat is and that I am the shopkeeper and that it works as described. I wouldn’t be able to fake Hedin announcing the rules of the transaction and the closing of the chats, and they can all corroborate the same details.Thoughts over coffee.
I don't think I'll get clarification of movement and maybe it's best for town if I'm solved anyway. I'm JOAT and your friendly neighborhood Rogue.
Hide, Track and Commute are my tiers.
Hide seemed pointless so I waited until N2 and tracked Nat and he did not move which is why I assumed Sorian was the shopkeeper.
Nat visit with Ty has me ???
If we question Ty it brings back Slipgate on a shared pool of xp. It would also mean Nat is scum and is earning xp for them or has limited gacha slots and one of his other was faked which I'd lean more towards Alex with that item since we haven't seen any scum abilities to counter all these town gossip shot/role or whatever we're calling them.
… But the above depends on movement and I doubt I actually have anything and just feel dumb for wasting my shot.
I don't think I'm much suited to solve or play better so I'm fine if I need to be the vote today for town.
Yeah, I didn’t get any clarification from Hedin. All I know is that my command has to be in before day end. You’re welcome to ask Fran, Alex, or Ty - it’s very clear what my chat is and that I am the shopkeeper and that it works as described. I wouldn’t be able to fake Hedin announcing the rules of the transaction and the closing of the chats, and they can all corroborate the same details.
I do also think melon doesnt look too good here claim wise but I've been townreading them from interactions in the early days, so I think I wanna hold off on that.
Yes, I have.Uh, have you?
and what would you like me to claim? Egg Guy is already taken.
I'm also townreading melon pretty strongly just from the interactions yesterday, and from looking at voting behaviour, I have a bit of a bad feeling about TWE.
Melon’s claim is fine, it’s basically what I was expecting so either she thought it out or it’s just real. I was re-reading Wizard and then I re-read Alexem and honestly maybe I’m seeing things at this point. Their play is very similar except for Wiz being more aggressive but it’s like neither of them was trying to push the game forward. It’s a lot of commenting on what’s going on and then not leading us anywhere. Even Wiz who came to push on me a ton never actually like pressed the game enough to get me dead which now just feels like he wants to set up the next mislynch after Geno.
I agree with a lot of Fran’s conclusions but I do think Alex and Wiz could be teamed, nothing that I’ve seen disqualifies a pairing here at all. Wiz never put Alex in real danger and he hopped off that day 1 vote fairly gracefully before it would have mattered after which he never came back to it.
I'm still bothered by this. Obviously I know that I'm town, nin has a lot of things pointing towards him being town, it makes sense for Natiko to be neutral and malus questioned me a bit about the shopkeeper so it seems like they didn't know about it. How does Wizard know TWE isn't the shopkeeper before he claimed? If scum rolecopped TWE, why would they kill him at night?Off the dome probably something like this:
town:
Zipped
melon
Ty
Chuggs
Ael
nin
TWE
Muffin
PoE:
Natiko
Fran
Alexem
Sorian
Geno
I would be happy to move the shopkeeper out of the PoE based on the way malus reacted at day start. I think Sorian is a good place to look and I'll probably move my vote there if things stay stagnant
Zipped
melon
Ty
Chuggs
Ael
nin
TWE
Muffin
Natiko
Fran
Alexem
Sorian
Geno
You're missing two other options for Wiz's slip.(I still am still confused why town has all these gossip roles and scum doesn't seem to have a counter/equivalent)
So we have three scum left we've decided for balance purposes, yes?
Between Ty v Alex. There are ppl on both wagons idk if I trust (Muffin, Chuggs) but I feel good about both Fran and Sorian and while I've felt mostly fine to good with Ty. What Fran brought up with Wiz knowing the shopkeeper does bug me and the only ppl that could've shared that with Wiz are nin (pretending to miss the chat), Fran and Ty.
Fran I don't see it all. So between nin and Ty the only way nin works is if Sorian is also scum with the green check.
malus, Wiz, nin, Sorian and ???
idk who you'd put as fifth there. I guess Ael and they are the scum gossip counter.
Or: malus, Wiz, Ty, ???, ???
For now I'm leaning Ty. But I could also see Alex and Ty being scum.
What level a skill is doesn’t matter in a vacuum. Maybe you can draw some knowledge if that skill pops up again as a different tier on another player though.Why Alexem? Do you think that Wiz bus Alexem D1?
No, I didn't claim. Does it matter?
It's not weird when I have a green role PM lolTy being the one to dig into this is kind of fucking weird because the only two conclusions is a rolecop or you, Ty, are scum and told your team who the shopkeeper was. Like, I'm sorry but I'm not entertaining Nat as being scum, if he was a costume account maybe but just his name goes out there immediately night 1 to the first person he invites? There's no way.
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I echo the sentiment that gossip doesn't inherently need a counter. If anything, Aeleus is kind of a bone for scum because they are setting up double kills whenever they use their chat.
Ok? I'll be more specific since that did come out a little like I was just shading. You trying to push this theory reads like damage control. I see what Fran is pointing out but this just as easily could have been Wizard making a fake reads list and assuming the shopkeeper had to be in his "scum reads" considering there is a world where scum just didn't know who the shopkeeper was and that was the one thing Wizard could actually latch onto for solving without acting. I know melon brought it up but they really do just feel like town flailing here so whatever, I feel like you thought are more concerned about this than everyone else was which reads like guilty conscience and trying to jump to the first conclusion of "actually Natiko is scum" as your first counter theory is insane to me.It's not weird when I have a green role PM lol
... what?Ok? I'll be more specific since that did come out a little like I was just shading. You trying to push this theory reads like damage control. I see what Fran is pointing out but this just as easily could have been Wizard making a fake reads list and assuming the shopkeeper had to be in his "scum reads" considering there is a world where scum just didn't know who the shopkeeper was and that was the one thing Wizard could actually latch onto for solving without acting. I know melon brought it up but they really do just feel like town flailing here so whatever, I feel like you thought are more concerned about this than everyone else was which reads like guilty conscience and trying to jump to the first conclusion of "actually Natiko is scum" as your first counter theory is insane to me.
... what?
I didn't conclude Natiko is scum.
This word salad is just confusing to me so I'll just take the easy option and stop overthinking it.
Vote: Sorian
You're missing two other options for Wiz's slip.
- Natiko is scum
- Scum had enough information to pinpoint the shopkeeper
If scum know that you can't be the shopkeeper because Fran used male pronouns and for whatever reason also know TWE and Sorian can't be the shopkeeper then they're able to eliminate everybody except Natiko.
I already suggested this.Natiko is scum
I don't think scum needs a counter for the chats but with it being a design choice for this game it would be weird if scum didn't have any way to be part of that design. Doesn't mean there's definitely scum between me, Sorian and Muffin could just be a power to read a night chat/message (I could see it as part of a JOAT and with blarg's poison still unaccounted for I'm fairly sure there's still another to flip)
I'm landing on Alexem + Ty4on + Muffin/Chuggs as the scum team.This are the remaining players:
[Any] Sorian - UTC-6
[He/Him] Alexem - UTC+0
[He/They] Chuggernaut|Chuggs - UTC+6
[He/Him] Natiko - UTC-5
[He/Him] Ty4on|Ty - UTC+1
[He/Him] Franconp|Fran - UTC-3
[He/Him] Muffin - UTC+1
[They/Them] Aeleus - UTC+0
[They] melonrabbit|melon - UTC-8
[He/Him] Zippedpinhead|Zipped - UTC-6
[He/Him] nin1000|nin - UTC+1
[He/Him] turmoil7|turm - UTC-3
I'm town. Zipped is town. If Sorian is telling the truth Nin is town. Turm is very likely town (a kill was prevented N3 and Wiz tried to claim a protection role so Turm didn't get cred for that). Natiko is neutral.
That leaves us a PoE of:
Sorian
Alexem
Chuggs
Ty
Muffin
Ael
Melon
Sorian claimed hider/gossip. Alexem claimed a lie detector, something else?. Chuggs is a fruit vendor. Ty claimed commuter. Muffin is a gossip. Ael is lover. Melon have hide/track/commute.
How many protective roles does town have? Neon had several protections, Febe was also a bodyguard, HP could make a target ascetic and nexus (and both affected night kills). Does it makes sense of town having also a 2 hider shots (this are really weak) and 4 commute shots.
How many investigative roles town have? Febe had a cop shot. Zipped had one. Sorian and Melon have hider shots (this are weaker but a green check is good). We have 2 track shots. Lie detector is kinda of an investigative role.
We have 3 chats (without counting Natiko's).
What doesn't fit here?
This being a possibility (though an unlikely one) is why I think we should get nat his supposed win condition sooner than later.I already suggested this.
Also I believe only Muffin and Chuggs have claimed RNG to their roles.Sorian claimed hider/gossip. Alexem claimed a lie detector, something else?. Chuggs is a fruit vendor. Ty claimed commuter. Muffin is a gossip. Ael is lover. Melon have hide/track/commute.
Geno had RNG stuff going on so it is a thing in this gameAlso I believe only Muffin and Chuggs have claimed RNG to their roles.
I don't see Sorian as partners with Wizard both from how Sorian scum read Wizard in the gossip chat and Wizards vote on Sorian last EOD.
Melon just doesn't feel like they have a team and the claim makes sense to me
Also I believe only Muffin and Chuggs have claimed RNG to their roles.
Oh right. My role is kinda meh, especially with everything going on. I only have commuter abilities. More exp variants makes it more likely I successfully commute.
What generates the chat? Is it RNGesus or do you decide?My question is what happens if I chat with someone tonight and they survive and back me up tomorrow. Some of y'all still think that's a scum role? The pattern so far has been that tiers have been one use and done, unless I'm forgetting something.
That's the reason I already sent my tier 2 command earlier and picked someone who I doubt will get killed. Else I'd have picked Fran probably.Because I’m sure scum will try and NK anyone you predetermine to chat with for town cred just to mess with us
I claimed that already but I'll say it again, my t1 is rng, my t2 is my choice, t3 is two people one rng one my choiceWhat generates the chat? Is it RNGesus or do you decide?
I love night chats personally,
The idea I had in gossip was that your potential scum power could have extra rider effects like some of mineMy question is what happens if I chat with someone tonight and they survive and back me up tomorrow. Some of y'all still think that's a scum role? The pattern so far has been that tiers have been one use and done, unless I'm forgetting something.
Could you expand on this? Because this post stuck in my mind as something that goes against my scum team theory and that ticks me off.But I think Muffin especially as a lot that un pairs him with both flipped scum
He kept asking about his hat and quests. I really thought the hat was gonna be something.I haven't reread Wiz regarding Melon but I don't think that Wiz links his fake claim to a scum partner. At least not like he did it.
So all the pure/non-JOAT roles supposedly have RNG?I agree. Last day doesnt' feel like a bus.
I haven't reread Wiz regarding Melon but I don't think that Wiz links his fake claim to a scum partner. At least not like he did it.
Ty claimed RNG too:
Which I still dislike.
What happened to your impatience? And not wasting time? (Which I disagree that's what we are doing now)but also i'm impatient and don't want to waste a lot of time on this so
Could you expand on this? Because this post stuck in my mind as something that goes against my scum team theory and that ticks me off.
I was going to go after Muffin but after rereading this conversation I think he is town:
This doesn't seems like Muffin is teamed. He seems sincere about not knowing how the xp mechanic works. If he were part of a team they would have talked about this.
So all the pure/non-JOAT roles supposedly have RNG?
Neon's role I read as a JOAT just with traits suited for a healer type. Like mine are Rogue-like. But again JOAT might not be the best phrasing.I don't think so. Neon had a medic like role and no rng.
I should also make a list, ISO-ed most of the playerlist earlier.
Town
Chuggernaut - Strong player, but have liked the motivation and way of treating this game
Town lean
The Wizard - Good prodding
Upper null
Muffin - Had pretty good vibes, very little solving IIRC
malus - Also decent vibes
Varying degrees of sus
Sawneeks - The Sorian read at #291 made me raise my eyebrow. It doesn't really say much and seems more like a justification for voting Sorian after I flip town. The line about Sorian positioning for me flipping town feels TMI-y (look at my MU vocab coming back D: ) and seems like a strange read to make when Sorian is in a way more treating me like someone who has flipped red by looking at who were late to reacting.
Alexem - Doesn't really seem to have an opinion of me. It's fine to be unsure, but the way he describes me feels like he's trying to make up a read instead of actually having one.
(Again I've trimmed some of this down to focus on bolded take)Reading around the room:
- I generally feel OK with the higher posters at the moment - Chuggs, Sorian, Melon and Sneeks all feel to me as though they're working on advancing the game. Can't rule out the possibility of there being a meanie in the mix, but I don't think I could confidently point the finger at any of them for that.
- Wizard feels OK, I get that our reasoning's different but I felt that when he was questioning me over my thoughts on Ty it came from an earnest place. I could put Nat here too, although I'd like to hear more from his direction in general.
- Ty and Neon I've already discussed at length, so I think my opinion's clear there - I'd like to resolve the Ty situation somehow and I don't think the two are scum mates.
- Geno and Muffin have popped in here and there, I don't really have any solid feelings on either. (No offence taken at Muffin being up for shooting me D1, even I get frustrated with how I am in early phases.)
- That leaves Nin, Malus and Zipped. I thought Nin looked OK early on, but he's gone quiet since. Malus has popped up occasionally and I see he's just checked in, so I don't think I've got anything too concrete to tie to him now - I wasn't keen on the Turmoil vote, but I can see the sense in pressuring Cap, just as long as that's not for the sake of abandoning a wagon that's not taken off. Zipped left a impression on me of looking engaged right at the start, but that doesn't tie up with his activity or the contents of those posts. Could be trying to fly low, but it could also be IRL limitations - either way, though, if he stays in the game, he needs to speak up more.
Did Ael say or is it all chat based?Alexem is the only one who we only know one of the powers?
I think we know at least 2 of everyone else.
Did Ael say or is it all chat based?
Geno had RNG stuff going on so it is a thing in this game
I haven’t said what ever of my other skills are other than “not anything related to alignment checking”Alexem is the only one who we only know one of the powers?
I think we know at least 2 of everyone else.